eclarke said:Good point. But first they would have to find leaders which would mean finding people with character. UK companies have also been very pro-active of getting rid of people with character in favour of followers that won't upset the poor management discissions.TPPhotog said:Yep that sums up the decline of virtually every company here in the UK, when will management learn
When will companies replace "management" with leadership?..EC
The problem with modern democracy is that it is based on competition, not opinion. Elections are won and lost, polls keep counts as soccer fans keep track of the world cup. So what, you might ask (I would)?Tom Stanworth said:Is democracy dead in a country of career MP sheep, herded by party whips!
eclarke said:When will accountants and their bottom line of profits at all cost, be replaced with management that gives a dam n.TPPhotog said:Yep that sums up the decline of virtually every company here in the UK, when will management learn
When will companies replace "management" with leadership?..EC
15 years ago i got upset when at the HMO we had an 18 year old receptionist was able to order the medical tests, done by another nurses aide of 18 years, who then diagonosed my sons strep throat. The nurses aide took out an alrready signed perscription slip to take to their in house pharmacy. NO DR< at all. Knowing my son's history, I demanded to see a DR. I was told no, it was not cost effect. After I told off the two 18 year olds, and threatend to turn them into every single medical exam board, and law enforment agency for practicing wihtout a license, I did get to see a DR.
Bit businesses are the same way. Having employees are not cost effective. It is better to outsource and get rid of those in house employees. My hubbies first week at his new job is this week. He was fortunate enough to be picked up permenantely by the new company (IBM). He was put in charge on the IBM side of overseeing the data center move. He has also been told of his long term assignments, and some training he will be doing. Down side to his old company is Dan knows how the whole system runs. He has been in on the meetings where they are going to try and sabotague the whole process. well they do, and it isn't a hardware problem, and it will cost them even more to have IBM fix minor problems. Dan is loving it, each time they (Williams Sonoma) does something stupid to halt the progess, he just smiles and says CA Ching. His old boss asked why he isn't loyal to Williams sonoma just yesterday. Dan replied, "Why, they in the last 2 years have cut out all benefits, taken away my bonus, taken away any more stock options, I say no raises, and effectively lost over @425K a year, then I get laid off because I made too much money, and you want me to be loyal to those who threw me out?" The manager today got news that he is in the next round of lay offs, and his group is not being picked up by any new company. Can we say pay back is a B***h. Long term it is going to cost Williams Sonoma with all the changes they want just from this week, double what they had anticpated, and more than if they had not out sourced.
That's not a rant ... but them I'm a little biased cause I agree with youAndre R. de Avillez said:Yeah, it seems the whole world suffers from myopia...
To extend your rant:
Philanthropy is annonymous. Showing off your "good deeds" is pure P.R.
Aggie said:When will accountants and their bottom line of profits at all cost, be replaced with management that gives a dam n.
Bit businesses are the same way. Having employees are not cost effective. It is better to outsource and get rid of those in house employees.
Aggie said:When I worked for the British Computer Society (a charity) they increasingly outsourced everything they could think of even some despatch, all at enormous cost. The service they got was frequently shoddy and often the BCS staff had to put the errors right. But it didn't matter because they were making so much money from their European Computer Driving Licence franchise that these expenses were more than covered.
Having worked for several charities over the years I can tell you that sadly some of them can treat their staff just as badly as any profit making organisation.
BlackandWhite40 said:The range of chemical products will be back in the shops quite soon and will continue to be made, in fact no product has been discontinued.
No decision has yet been made regarding Powdered Chemistry.
BlackandWhite40 said:The information you have is wrong, I have been assured by a very good scource within Ilford that the powdered chemistry will continue to be made, in fact a new batch is being made at Mobberley now.
Les, we will have to agree to differ on this one!
-but I think your source might want to double check his/her information!!
We've had a worker at the Ilford plant here in the past give us updates. Les knows the internal people high up. He works their booths at various fairs. It would seeme evasive to just say you have obvious reasons when there doesn't seem to be a good reason for it. This tends to discredit a person as alarmist.BlackandWhite40 said:For obvious reasons I can not disclose my source, but I can guarantee that the information is 100%. Whilst the liquid chemicals are being manufactured again, the powders are not - at the moment.
I rather thought that you were going to tell us?BlackandWhite40 said:Any sign of the powders chemicals from ILFORD?
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