Ilford statement on 120 roll film mottling

[Tom Kershaw]

I've just come across the mottling on a roll of Pan F Plus used for a developer test. Batch code: 67BPN1C01/02 July 2021. I have a few other rolls from this batch and an additional test to do, so will probably report to Harman.

Edit: The 2nd roll of test film (Pan F Plus) also shows the mottling.

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

A couple months ago I bought a couple of fresh 120 Pan F bricks, and they've been great so far. Love this stuff!

 

[Tom Kershaw]

I've just submitted my feedback to Harman, so I'll see what happens.

 

[Auer]

Had this issue with Pan F and FP4+.

e-mail response from Ilford:

"Based on the description you’ve given, and from seeing your image - the unfortunate findings on your FP4+ roll film links to the issue we raised on our website. ie our statement posted 02/03/20 - https://www.ilfordphoto.com/statement-120-roll-film/

So we definitely will be posting out replacement films to you. Though we will try our best to do this asap, it may take 2-3 weeks before you receive them. (I appreciate however, that replacement items don’t take away the disappointment of losing images).

In order to better help us too, however – please can you let me have the series of 4 numbers on the processed films lower signed edge?
Our company takes great pride in the quality and consistency of its products and all complaints are thoroughly investigated. I will be forwarding your unfortunate incident to our priority teams colleagues.

Please accept our apologies for the disappointment caused on this occasion."

 

[Pieter12]

A couple months ago I bought a couple of fresh 120 Pan F bricks, and they've been great so far. Love this stuff!

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Maybe it is different for Pan than the HP5+ I use, but it does not look as fresh as the film I get from Freestyle and Samy's. Typical expiration dates are about 2 years out, not 8 months.

 

[Tom Kershaw]

Is it yet known whether Harman have dealt with the mottling problem?

 

[Auer]

Is it yet known whether Harman have dealt with the mottling problem?

I received replacements for some FP4+ I had that was mottled and it seems fine, I shot one roll no issues.
It took a while, they sound overworked and understaffed.

 

[Tom Kershaw]

I received replacements for some FP4+ I had that was mottled and it seems fine, I shot one roll no issues.
It took a while, they sound overworked and understaffed.

Thanks. I haven't heard anything from them more recently but suspect you're right.

 

[seoirse]

I've just come across the mottling on a roll of Pan F Plus used for a developer test. Batch code: 67BPN1C01/02 July 2021. I have a few other rolls from this batch and an additional test to do, so will probably report to Harman.

Edit: The 2nd roll of test film (Pan F Plus) also shows the mottling.

Hi Tom, I just processed a roll of Pan F Plus this evening, which I had shot yesterday and it has a lot of mottling. Guess what, I have a further two rolls and I've checked the box details to find the following... Batch code: 67BPN1C01/01 July 2021.
My batch was likely manufactured the day before yours! Obviously, they had problems at that time. I'm going to write to them and notify them of the issue.

Best regards,
Seoirse (George)

 

[Tom Kershaw]

My batch was likely manufactured the day before yours! Obviously, they had problems at that time. I'm going to write to them and notify them of the issue.

Hello George,

This is a good idea, and feel free to reference my experience with a similar / the same batch if you'd think that would be helpful. I'd be interested to have some information from Harman with regard to whether these mottling problems are now mostly behind them, aside from the long standing triggers that most likely do not apply to your film (or mine). I have a small stock of year 2000 expiry Kodak Plus-X 120 that shows no mottling and is evidently significantly out of date, which shows this problem is by no means inevitable.

Tom

 

[seoirse]

Hello George,

This is a good idea, and feel free to reference my experience with a similar / the same batch if you'd think that would be helpful. I'd be interested to have some information from Harman with regard to whether these mottling problems are now mostly behind them, aside from the long standing triggers that most likely do not apply to your film (or mine). I have a small stock of year 2000 expiry Kodak Plus-X 120 that shows no mottling and is evidently significantly out of date, which shows this problem is by no means inevitable.

Tom

Thanks Tom, I'll let you know how I get on.
Regards,
George.

 

[MattKing]

I have a small stock of year 2000 expiry Kodak Plus-X 120 that shows no mottling and is evidently significantly out of date, which shows this problem is by no means inevitable.

Or at least wasn't inevitable with the (then Kodak manufactured) backing paper and Plus-X 120 emulsion that was able to be made about a quarter century ago .
Many things, and many possibilities have changed in that quarter century.

 

[seoirse]

Thanks Tom, I'll let you know how I get on.
Regards,
George.

Alright, just to confirm that this evening I have sent off a feedback form to Ilford Harman regarding the Pan F Plus mottle problem I'm having. I'll keep you posted as soon as I receive a reply.

 

[Tom Kershaw]

Alright, just to confirm that this evening I have sent off a feedback form to Ilford Harman regarding the Pan F Plus mottle problem I'm having. I'll keep you posted as soon as I receive a reply.

I would like to be able to have more confidence in the ILFORD product so will be interested to hear how you get on.