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ericdan said:
FX changes don't have any immediate impact I think. If you sell products internationally you buy FX forwards to guarantee your price is stable over a period no matter where the FX rate moves.
Anyways, Kodak and Ilford films are equally expensive in Japan. What I find outrageous is that Ilford chemicals sell at 5x the price!!
Five times!
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It's just crazy that Fujifilm doesn't sell an ISO 400 speed film in 120 size.
 
ericdan said:
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Anyways, Kodak and Ilford films are equally expensive in Japan. What I find outrageous is that Ilford chemicals sell at 5x the price!!
Five times!
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Yet, Kodaks and Ilfords chemistry is likely made by one and the same 3rd party.
It's funny pricing for products with minimal R&D in the last 40 years or so.
 
georg16nik said:
Yet, Kodaks and Ilfords chemistry is likely made by one and the same 3rd party.
It's funny pricing for products with minimal R&D in the last 40 years or so.
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I expect that almost all of the cost comes from the costs to package and distribute the chemistry.
 
Well I think we have seen enough evidence from Ilford itself to conclude that it is not deliberately pricing its products to leave Japan and has expressed concern should its distributors be acting rashly, shall we say but it will be interesting to see what happens in the next few months.

The GBP has lost a lot of value against the yen and most other currencies so as a consumer in Japan of Ilford products the worst you might expect is that the distributors' prices stabilise as they "profit" from needing less yen to buy Ilford stuff. The best is that the distributors "split" the profits of a depreciating GBP with its customers

My feeling is that key to this may be whether the distributors believe that Ilford products have a relatively inelastic demand i.e. when sales do not respond to any great extent to a drop in price. If that is their belief then prices will not drop until the distributors discover that they are wrong in their belief and revenue does start to drop seriously.

pentaxuser
 
Hopefully it's a silly importers mistake by a fresh out-of-college employee and nothing permanent.
 
georg16nik said:
Hopefully it's a silly importers mistake by a fresh out-of-college employee and nothing permanent.
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It's been that way for well over a year and a half now, if it was a mistake they should have changed it by now.
 
Here is what you need to do, ericdan. Fly to Australia, buy Ilford film at their prices, then fly back to Japan. Then the next time you buy Ilford film in Japan, it will feel like such a bargain. Repeat as often as necessary. :D
 
Gosh, you done did break the code ... :redface:
 
Sirius Glass said:
Here is what you need to do, ericdan. Fly to Australia, buy Ilford film at their prices, then fly back to Japan. Then the next time you buy Ilford film in Japan, it will feel like such a bargain. Repeat as often as necessary. :D
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You're funny. Siriusly, what would we do without you?
 
but again, the price for film is pretty close to Fuji and Kodak. I wonder why the chemicals are so expensive.
Film I can import myself. liquid developers are a little more difficult.
 
ericdan said:
hmmm, then I wonder why powder chemicals are the most expensive. that somehow doesn't make sense.
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Too much direct competition with Fuji's own powder chemicals?
 
Photo Engineer said:
Japan is extremely protective of local (native) producers of anything.

PE
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That's fine and Dandy, if Fujifilm was actually making film instead of axing their product line. Where else are customers going to get their film supply ? And don't tell me to use ISO 50 and 100 only. It ain't enough. I love to use HP5+ because I can easily push and pull it for the effects I want....
 
Kodak powders sell at 'normal' prices in Japan.
Again, a bag of Microphen is over 30 dollars while D-76 is 5, x-tol same. Even T-max liquid is cheaper at 5L than 1L of Microphen.
 
N.Y vs Tokyo
Ilford DD-X: $17.95 vs $66.14 (3.7x)
Microphen: $6.50 vs $31.36 (4.8x)
Rapid Fixer: $9.90 vs $21.56 (2.2x)
 
ericdan said:
Kodak powders sell at 'normal' prices in Japan.
Again, a bag of Microphen is over 30 dollars while D-76 is 5, x-tol same. Even T-max liquid is cheaper at 5L than 1L of Microphen.
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Actually, Xtol sells for 2000 yen a 5L bag, and has for some time. That's double the U.S. price. D-76 is just over 1000 yen and the rest of the line is pretty reasonable.
 
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