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Ilford, easy on the price increases...

Then why Ilford Ortho or the recent Foma Ortho or Ferrania Orto are all still coated on triacetate base?
The new Foma Ortho 400 is coated on polyester base without antihalation layer – it's in the tech data for the film.
It was probably too expensive to do the engineering for PET.
The light piping issues might be more problematic as well for an ortho film - I don't know.
About 10 years ago I remember how Kodak Tri-X in 135 and 120 were coated on acetate base, while 4 x 5, 5 x 7, 8 x 10 used ESTAR (PET) base.
Acetate is non-archival base, while ESTAR(PET) is archival – per ISO criteria.
 
The new Foma Ortho 400 is coated on polyester base without antihalation layer – it's in the tech data for the film.
It doesn't make any difference, still the other films are coated on a triacetate base...
 

Thanks Matt

pentaxuser
 
About 10 years ago I remember how Kodak Tri-X in 135 and 120 were coated on acetate base, while 4 x 5, 5 x 7, 8 x 10 used ESTAR (PET) base.
Acetate is non-archival base, while ESTAR(PET) is archival – per ISO criteria.

The differences between the applications and the substrate thicknesses mean that the engineering still has to be done for the switch to happen.
In most cases, the work was done with the sheet films when volumes were much higher.
 
Personally, I would rather the manufacturers do more frequent, but smaller price changes. Yes, nobody likes price hikes, but would you rather have a small price change every 3-6 months, or a much, much larger one every couple years?

I'd rather it be smaller and more frequent. It lets them stay on top of expenses, and get a real sense of what the market will bear, and in all honesty, the price on the street generally lags behind by 3-6 months as retailers cycle through their inventory, so most of what everybody is seeing on the street right now actually happened a while ago further up the chain.
 
I understand that the manufacturers have to increase prices to stay afloat, and then their stockists do too. I would just prefer a heads up so I can stock up ahead of time.
 
I understand that the manufacturers have to increase prices to stay afloat, and then their stockists do too. I would just prefer a heads up so I can stock up ahead of time.

In all likelihood, current prices are as low as they will ever be for new film. You can safely assume the price will only go up.
So stock up now?
 
In all likelihood, current prices are as low as they will ever be for new film. You can safely assume the price will only go up.
So stock up now?

How do you buy a lifetime supply of perishable goods?
 
I understand that the manufacturers have to increase prices to stay afloat, and then their stockists do too. I would just prefer a heads up so I can stock up ahead of time.

I too like to stock up one films especially recently discontinued film and keep those films from the hoarders.
 
How do you buy a lifetime supply of perishable goods?

"Stock up" doesn't necessarily mean "lifetime supply". And a lifetime supply will vary, anyway (as does a lifetime). But if you want one, buy a freezer, then fill it with film.
 
I too like to stock up one films especially recently discontinued film and keep those films from the hoarders.

"Stock up" doesn't necessarily mean "lifetime supply". And a lifetime supply will vary, anyway (as does a lifetime). But if you want one, buy a freezer, then fill it with film.

Must keep all the film for myself!
Stop the hoarders!​
Must buy more film!​
 
"Stock up" doesn't necessarily mean "lifetime supply". And a lifetime supply will vary, anyway (as does a lifetime). But if you want one, buy a freezer, then fill it with film.
Can the paper go in the same freezer as the film?
 
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I never knew that cauliflower was a constituent of photographic materials!!

Still about £1 ($1.33 Approx) in UK at the supermarkets, less if you buy at a farm shop