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645 depends on the camera. A few give 16 but most only get 15. I get 15 with my Mamiya 645 Pro.
Oh and 6x7 is typically 10 shots.
If I could afford a Jobo I'd be fine with the plastic reels(I understand there are some steel reels for Jobo as well.)
I With the cameras I use for 645 I always get 16, at least with 3 of the 4 I have, my three ensigns, a Commando, selfix 16/20 amd my latest, a Autorange 220, all give me 16, and only two are ruby window cameras, the 220 has a film counter from 1950 that works perfectly, the only one that gives 15 is my Bronica etr, but I very rarely use that camera
Thanks for the responses and encouraging words fellow APUG and film users! I have a what I believe to be small bag as I suspect since I didn't know how to buy one, it is a 16x16 size thought it is usable just but with patients and enough insanity to do so, and thankfully I have plenty of insanity! To load the reel I place everything in the bag before sealing it, rod, reel, cap and cover for it, some scissors and of course the film! I know learned by mistake that I need to remove the paper first which I do. Then I get the end of the film lord knows which side though I'm uncertain if this matters? I do assure it's the natural curly side! I am unsure if it's even safe to touch the exposure as well seeing that I may ruin it without the idea of proper handling process! I use my left hand to hold the reel and my right to press down the little lip thingy, for lack of proper identification, I then slip the films end in there all while I hold the reel to the floor of the bag stabilized by a coffee table, and as I roll and rolled until my arms tired and profusely sweat, I attempt to keep it aligned and secured without loose placement, it still bends and feels crooked! I had to assume that the spool was in fact not 120, however I didn't give up unfortunately and instead I left it on the spool
Humm, all those are older models. Maybe newer ones are more likely to only get 15?
I only have the 645 Pro in that format and it's 15 (30 on 220 of which I have a few rolls left.)
Here are some youtube tutorials:
1. this one shows the most, and is closest to the way I work (subject to my challenges with the clip): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hrFangkvbw;
2. this one is short and sweet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwiESmJiP4Q . The Hewes reels referenced are an excellent choice;
3. this one is interesting as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VsdeNBm_50
All three show people touching the back (non-emulsion) sides of the film with their fingers. That is generally okay, but it is even better to use nitrile gloves if you can. If you must work without gloves, wash and dry your hands first.
Hope this helps.
Matt, thank you very much for your time, and advice! I can't wait to do another roll in fact I have one but I think I may have ruined it already by improper loading and unloading! Either way I have more film to use and more film in my B&H Photo shopping cart!
I've been developing my own B&W film for almost 40 years...and have never been able to load a reel in the changing bag...I've never really had much luck with stainless steel reels either. Started with the old GAF plastic tank and reels (the stirring rod was also a thermometer)...and have used Patterson tanks and reels for a long time. They have their own challenges but, they seem to work for me. When I was young, I had the luxury of a dedicated dark room. Now that I own my own home, I have no such luxury. I load the film on the reels in the bathroom. Close the door, turn off the lights, shove a towel up under the crack between the bottom of the door and the floor...then get in the tub and close the shower curtain...it works.
As others have said, practice, practice, practice....in the light, then with your eyes closed and then in the dark. It will eventually become second nature.
cOULD ANYONE DIRECT ME TO THE "BEST" BANG FOR MY BUCK 120 TANK REEL from JOBO,OR THE LIKE? tHANKS GUYS! -aMERICO
Two of these: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/122989-REG/Samigon_ESA325_Multi_Format_Autofeed_Reel.html
And one of these: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/40338-REG/Paterson_PTP116_Multi_Reel_3_Tank_ONLY.html
This will permit you to develop two 120 films at the same time.
In fact, once you gain some experience, you may be able to use it for 4 rolls at once.
But if you do learn to use the stainless steel reels, they are really great, and preferred by many.
I prefer them for 35mm.
Steel reels can be quite difficult to load, especially for beginners. I recommend that you buy a plastic Paterson tank (Super System 4) and reels. You'll find loading them much easier.
And there is no black and white film currently produced in 220 size.
Yes, 220 will work fine in the Pentacon. When you have made the twelfth exposure, simply press the button by the wind-on lever and then the counter proceeds onwards to twenty-four. Details are shown on that site I linked above. Although I have never used 220 in my P6's the functionality (with the little switch) is the same that one uses to wind-on the tail at the end of 120, and that works perfectly every time.
As you are having problems with 120 length film, you need to be aware that 220 film is twice as long and that you may (almost certainly) need a different steel-reel to load it instead of the 120.
With the Paterson plastic reels you can load the 220 length on the same reel as 120/127/135, as it's a 'universal' design. However, roll film is less stiff than 135 and to have that long a piece of film sliding smoothly through the reel will require a very clean and very dry reel, of course.
I forgot to add, that I relied solely on my Samsung Note 3 as a meter, with an app I purchased for $2.00! I give it, Light Meter, 6 thumbs up! by a.rodriguezpix, on Flickr
If you have 6 thumbs, you may need extra practice loading the reels
And there is no black and white film currently produced in 220 size.
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