Ilford Delta-400 Professional 120 Black & White Negative (Print) Film (ISO-400)

aRolleiBrujo · Aug 3, 2014

Does anyone know how many exposures I can get from, Ilford Delta-400 Professional 120 Black & White Negative (Print) Film (ISO-400), or any 120 film at that! I use a Pentacon Six TL by the way. Thank you!

R.Gould · Aug 3, 2014

120 depends on the format, 645 gives 16, 6x6 gives 12 and 6x8 or 6x9 gives you 8,

aRolleiBrujo · Aug 3, 2014

Thank you very much, this was somehow hard to figure out via Google! I do have the 6X6 square format, via the Pentacon Six TL! Thanjks again, and happy photography!

MartinP · Aug 3, 2014

For the OP, you might like to have a look at this link for general information and comparisons about the camera you are using. It deals with a lot of hardware questions and goes over some of the history too.

aRolleiBrujo · Aug 4, 2014

RUINED MY REEL LOADING my Ilford Delta 400 Professional, Black and White Print Film, 120, shot in my Pentacon Six TL!!!

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aRolleiBrujo · Aug 4, 2014

How do I scan well via my Epson V500? Thank you everyone! These are freaking awesome! I love them!

Xmas · Aug 4, 2014

Hi

The scanner should have come with a 120 film holder you can get 3rd party ones that perform better in terms of film flatness - if you are going bigger than A4, maybe.

10 shots per 120 with 6x7 cameras, and some people have panos with only a few shots per rool.

Noel

darkosaric · Aug 4, 2014

aRolleiBrujo said:
RUINED MY REEL LOADING my Ilford Delta 400 Professional, Black and White Print Film, 120, shot in my Pentacon Six TL!!!

Plastic or metal tank?

Scanning issues --> dpug.org

aRolleiBrujo · Aug 4, 2014

darkosaric said:
Plastic or metal tank?

Scanning issues --> dpug.org

TWAS those damned metal ones look what it has done to my son, and my film! Cursed the damned, well, me, it was my own doing, that has dragged me through this mud! I use my Epson V500 Photo with the anti newton glass set from http://www.betterscanning.com/scanning/usinginsert.html

aRolleiBrujo · Aug 4, 2014

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aRolleiBrujo · Aug 4, 2014

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MartinP · Aug 4, 2014

On the Pentacon Six the film is stopped automatically at each wind-on. For this distance to be correct depends on the film turning those little toothed wheels you see in the back of the camera. When you load the film it must be tight across the back of the camera - there is a discussion and tutorial on the link in my post above.

I have two refurbished Pentacon Six cameras and the frame-counter/spacing things do work adequately, if they are given the chance (and assuming that the camera isn't full of fifty years old solidified grease of course)! Good luck

aRolleiBrujo · Aug 4, 2014

MartinP said:
On the Pentacon Six the film is stopped automatically at each wind-on. For this distance to be correct depends on the film turning those little toothed wheels you see in the back of the camera. When you load the film it must be tight across the back of the camera - there is a discussion and tutorial on the link in my post above.

I have two refurbished Pentacon Six cameras and the frame-counter/spacing things do work adequately, if they are given the chance (and assuming that the camera isn't full of fifty years old solidified grease of course)! Good luck

Thank you very much for the information! I have spent a few hours combing that website, and others with manuals, however, it is still odd when it is not hands on! Sadly, my user error loading the steel reel has caused this issue to my film! I am still in awe over the whole use of caffenol and my first time shooting film! second really, but the first was destroyed even more so!

Terry Christian · Aug 4, 2014

Steel reels can be quite difficult to load, especially for beginners. I recommend that you buy a plastic Paterson tank (Super System 4) and reels. You'll find loading them much easier.

jeffreyg · Aug 4, 2014

I have used steel reels for over forty years and they work just fine. Waste a roll of film and practice loading with the lights on. Cut the corners of the "leader" of the roll on an angle. Secure it in the retaining clip, slightly curling the film get it started on the reel, holding the slight curl, place the reel on the counter top like a wheel and with gentle pressure roll the reel, the film will pretty much load itself. Again, practice until you can do the whole procedure with your eyes closed. Once you've got it turn the lights off and you are ready for the real go.

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JW PHOTO · Aug 4, 2014

Loading film on a steel reel can be an "art in itself" for many folks, me included, but once mastered it is much like riding a bike. You won't forget! Now, if your reels are bent or abused you will never get it right. I know this first hand as I had one reel that must have been dropped at one time and one edge was slightly bent in. It took me a long time to finely figure out why it wouldn't load. The only way I finally figured it out was with a strip of old exposed 120 film and trying to load it in daylight. It kept binding in the same spot each time and that lead me to the bent part. Practicing in the light with a strip of old 120 is a good way to learn without ruining anymore good shots also. Have fun! JW

JW PHOTO · Aug 4, 2014

Whoops Jeff, must have hit the button right after you, but agree 100%.

aRolleiBrujo · Aug 4, 2014

Thanks guys i appreciate the help! I guess using the film loading bag also dampened my try! xD

darkosaric · Aug 4, 2014

Terry Christian said:
Steel reels can be quite difficult to load, especially for beginners. I recommend that you buy a plastic Paterson tank (Super System 4) and reels. You'll find loading them much easier.

Agree. That is why I asked this question. I know many here adore steel reels, extra pluses are less chemicals in tank and less problems with humidity. But they are hard for beginners.

Terry Christian · Aug 4, 2014

I tried to start with steel reels when I began developing my own film a few years ago. No matter how I tried, I just couldn't get the hang of it until a friend gave me a plastic tank. Once I was proficient with the plastic, I was able to go back and learn the steel tank better. These days I use both.

JW PHOTO · Aug 4, 2014

aRolleiBrujo said:
Thanks guys i appreciate the help! I guess using the film loading bag also dampened my try! xD

Film loading bags don't make it any easier, but it's still doable! I have two bags, one large and one small and the small one is "NOT" for loading film. The small bag has no room in it to work the film on the reel. I suppose it can be done, but it ain't easy. In this case "bigger is better". JW

Truzi · Aug 4, 2014

The first time I used stainless steel I tried to push the film in - basically I thought it loaded the same way as a plastic reel, but without the ratcheting action.
Once I figured it out, I found steel easier. The only problems I've had since were from a slightly bent 120 reel (could not tell by looking at it).

I've not read all of your posts on APUG , but can we ask how you loaded the film?

Roger Cole · Aug 4, 2014

R.Gould said:
120 depends on the format, 645 gives 16, 6x6 gives 12 and 6x8 or 6x9 gives you 8,

645 depends on the camera. A few give 16 but most only get 15. I get 15 with my Mamiya 645 Pro.

Oh and 6x7 is typically 10 shots.

Roger Cole · Aug 4, 2014

Oh and I've been doing this since the 80s and never got the hang of steel reels. Love my Jobo plastic ones.

Truzi · Aug 4, 2014

Roger Cole said:
Oh and I've been doing this since the 80s and never got the hang of steel reels. Love my Jobo plastic ones.

If I could afford a Jobo I'd be fine with the plastic reels (I understand there are some steel reels for Jobo as well.)

Ilford Delta-400 Professional 120 Black & White Negative (Print) Film (ISO-400)

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