Which, unfortunately, is why I have not shared many of the image of my triplets I took with an SX-70 before they learned to crawl.
Bath tub pictures, nudie pics of childhood innocence, that kind of stuff.
Any child nudity or near nudity can now be called kiddie porn regardless of the intent of the person taking the picture.
It hasn't been. See examples above where someone else and I outline where we've done it just fine. Key is getting permission and not being a creep.
In the NYTimes link you posted the father found his daughter BEING RAPED. This is a far cry from finding someone taking pictures of your child, don't you agree? I really don't think the two can be equated or even compared. Assaulting the photographer would be overreacting, don't you think?
Oh, BTW, I have a daughter, now 37, and three granddaughters, 4, 5, and 7.
It hasn't been. See examples above where someone else and I outline where we've done it just fine. Key is getting permission and not being a creep.
... If I thought someone had taken photos of my little girl in her swimsuit for some kind of sexual gratification my blood would boil and I'm not sure how I'd react..
What I find sad is how so much of the innocent joy of photographing children without any bad intent has been removed from our lives.
Creepiness should be prevented, but the normal appreciation of children should be encouraged.
It's hard to disagree (although I think you mean p[a]edophiles), but let's not forget that the place children are most in danger of abuse of any sort (including sexual abuse) is in the family home, at the hands of family members.
This unfortunately is something media and politicians find it almost impossible to acknowledge, and therefore the image of the single middle-aged man who is a secret predator on children is promulgated - it is, after all, easier to do so than admit to ourselves that fathers, brothers, uncles (and mothers, sisters, aunts) can be responsible.
Indeed, the last time I made this point at APUG (and it is one based in a decade's worth of experience in working with and for the victims of childhood sexual abuse) it was dismissed as absurd. However, the facts are as they are - at least in the UK, but I would be very surprised indeed if it were not also true in the US ....
What I find sad is how so much of the innocent joy of photographing children without any bad intent has been removed from our lives.
Creepiness should be prevented, but the normal appreciation of children should be encouraged.
And that she had better pick up all these empty water bottles on the beach she left or I'll call the park rangers and have you fined for littering."
And that she had better pick up all these empty water bottles on the beach she left or I'll call the park rangers and have you fined for littering."
Back to the American confusion of nudity vs sexuality, I was invited to play hockey a few months ago against a team from Austria, that was on vacation touring around the US and wanted to play at the Snoopy Rink in Sonoma County.
We had no idea how good they were so we put a team together, and played them. They weren't very good but they had a girl on the team of about 25, who was the daughter of one of the guys playing. Afterwards they all came into the dressing room and I talked a couple of minutes to the girl who was sitting across from me. Her English wasn't great but I asked about their trip.
Then she proceeded to strip down naked, walk without a towel down to the shower area where there are about 4 shower heads and then shower with her team and ours.
We did a double take and tried not to be obvious and sort of left them to their shower, and got back to the locker area. She nor the rest of their team had the slightest problem with their nudity or commingling.
I thought to myself, we are so fucked up in this country. So silly and sexually repressed.
It's astonishing to me that we have become so suspicious of photographers who might want to make some pictures at a public pool, and we aren't troubled in the least by being perpetually monitored by surveillance cameras in virtually every place we travel in public.
Indeed. And that goes for he full-body scans at the airport also! But the chances of those being fodder for self-pleasuring seem a lot lower than pics of kiddies in bathing suits, or any other clothing.
I guess i must be one of those "crazy" people. If someone was photographing my grand daughters while swimming i would kindly ask him to stop and delete any photos that he has of them and if he refused, he would kindly be "knocked out" and his camera would never be seen again. I would also be nice and call the ambulance for him.
I thought to myself, we are so fucked up in this country. So silly and sexually repressed.
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