Interesting thread here. I've read in the past that enlarger lenses used wide open is optimal. Obviously this assumes glass carrier, aligned enlarger, etc... I've never found it to be true. This is with more than a few 6-element lenses, and a few APOs. I consistently found that the sharpest prints were made 1 or 2 stops down. Without exception, the worst results came from a lens full stopped down - I'd change bulbs or switch to a longer lens before using my lenses at f16 or f22.
I make my judgements using test negatives for the appropriate format. This one is for 35mm:
Close up of detail:
If you make prints with something like this, you'll see right away where your lens fails or shines, it's as clear as day.
I find wide open, the corners suffer. That's not to say I won't use my lens wide open, that's foolish. Like Bob says, for a mural print, or a lith print, I'll often use it wide open. The extra light is absolutely worth the trade off. I had a few mural rolls of Fotokemika Emaks paper - man was that stuff slow! One of the slowest papers I remember using. So am I going to stop down two stops if I've already got a 6 minute exposure time? Probably not.
Going back to the test negative above. In real world applications, an actual photograph, the differences in aperture (with the exception of fully closed down) are pretty slight. I'll try and stick to the sweet spot, but will use whatever aperture gives a useful exposure time.
To the OP, I wonder about the quality of the actual negative in question, not the lenses and alignment? I've got plenty of negatives that absolutely fail when making a 30-40 X enlargement. I shoot handheld on Tri-X, sometimes wide open on my Rolleiflex. They're great for a 10 X enlargement, really beautiful, but you can't make a mural out of every one. I think it takes a special negative to make a tack sharp 30-40 X enlargement. I've had people want murals printed from obviously out of focus 35mm negs; I remember telling them I could make a decent 5x7 and that's it, and suggested re-shooting. If you're really fussy, I would say using a tripod is probably a must. I hate tripods.
Good luck!
Rob
All I can rely on is real world practical evaluation and I have found that once its focused its not getting any sharper by stopping down. If you are
grain sharp on the paper - and if the print looks grain sharp - this is all I can hope for.
Bob, closing down past the lens sweet spot will improve things but only if your negative is not flat and/or your alignment is out of whack. If those are correct then you don't need any DoF at all since the negative is in a single plane with depth of emulsion thickness only. But if its slightly out, then the extra DoF you gain by closing down a stop or two can bring it all back into focus but at the cost of additional diffraction, so not as sharp as it would be if it were correctly aligned. The wider you can keep the aperture the better. Except that fully wide may introduce other aberations so you need to find the sweet spot. Each lens will have its own sweet spot. It looks to me from the MTF for the componon HM 4.5/90 that the sweet spot will be somewhere from F5.6 to F8. I doubt F5.6, more likely a bit more but by F8 it should be fine. But this is all theory. Real world may differ.
Since both diffraction and de-focus can wreak havoc in projection printing, the view-camera focusing method of Hansma can be adapted to the enlarger.
Focus the enlarger by moving the head on the column; this is like focusing the view camera with the rear standard. Focus on the center of the image and note where the column is. Then focus on any other part of the negative that may be out of plane or affected by curvature. Do this without touching the focus knob, by moving the enlarger head. Then set the head to the point exactly half-way between the extremes. This will optimize your depth of field at any aperture.
If you want, you can actually calculate the aperture to get it all in focus based on the focus spread (based on view camera focus equation of Hansma).
N = 20/(1+M) * square root of 'dv'
N = Aperture number
20 = user dependent constant (circle of confusion 0.15mm for me)
M = magnification
'dv' = millimeters of focal depth measured on the enlarger column (between your high focus and low focus points).
Another thing to remember when you are doing this kind of testing is that in a typical subject with a normal film, say Delta 100, you are unlikely to ever get more than 70-100 lp/mm resolution in the negative except in extreme cases. For simplicity of maths we'll call it 80 lp/mm. If you enlarge that 40X that will give you 2 lp/mm in the print. That will look pretty mushy from close distance. You need to be a fair distance from the print to make an assessment of print sharpness which you should remember when doing your tests.
To get high resolution at close print veiwing distance you would probably need 320 lp/mm in the negative with a 40X enlargement (that gives a little margin for error). I doubt you would ever get near to that except in a very carefully managed studio setup with the correct film.
In short, close inspection of print can mislead you into thinking something is wrong when in reality your exepectations of what is possible are beyond the capability of the system you are using.
If you're doing anything rightl, the Apo should beat the hell out of the S. But everything I've read so far sounds medieval to me. This is
somewhat academic, because any 6x7 neg enlarged that much will be basically mush anyway, if the print is viewed close at all. Neither lens is really engineered for huge enlargements.
or certain apo process lenses to do an ideal job.
which only goes to show that if you can't test and get consistant results from one test to the next, you'll never know which is/was really the best.
If you tried the RZ or RB 140mm macro, it would probably perform even better, because it would be working closer to the magnification it was designed for, and because it would be able to take advantage of its "flat field" optimization.
*_*, can you please elaborate on the method you used to test the Mamiya 110 lens, specifically how did you mount it in the enlarger and ensure that it is indeed parallel to the film plane?
When you said it is 'sharper' do you mean it is simultaneously sharper across the entire print, ie in the centre and the corners, or is it only sharper in the centre or the corners, but not both at the same time?
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