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Woah. Excellent work!
Would this work with any B&W films?
I have a roll of XP2+ that I've been meaning to try this with. When I'm doing B/W it's usually so I can make darkroom prints, so I typically don't want positives. With most B/W films put through this process though you'll end up with just a clear strip of plastic because the blix part of C-41 strips off all the silver. With XP2+ it should work since it's not silver that you see on the film, but rather dye.
Also, I scanned the color IR film and I don't think it looks any better than in E-6, but it doesn't look much worse either.
So that odd roll of BW400CN stuff I got floating around would be a prime for this...off to the freezer!
Kodak Gold 400
While doing some research on this, I did hear that you can end up with strange color casts with XP2+, so I wouldn't do it with anything really critical
Did you do anything else to the Kodak Gold? That is remarkably sharp and contrasty for cross processed negative film. And there does not appear to be much, if any, of an orange mask.
the film came out almost black
First developers (FDs) in reversal processes are specially formulated beasts! Pretty much all of the colour balancing and contrast control is done in the FD. Hc110 is not a reversal first developer, and won't produce optimal results. It is really challenging to properly formulate a reversal FD.
If you want a suggestion, you could try mixing up some D-67 (not D-76!) or D-168. These are reversal FDs for B&W. They might be a bit closer, but still won't be optimal. E6 FD contains hydroquinone monosulfonate (HQMS), which is different than regular HQ.
If you don't want to mix D-67 or D-168, then you could try adding a silver halide solvent to your HC110 (such as thiocyanate or thiosulfate). It will probably take a lot of trial and error to get the proper amount and the proper developing time.
Best of luck.
Thanks for the info.
I tried it with some expired Provia 400F. I did something wrong as the film came out almost black and you can very faintly see images. I can scan them but they don't come out very good. If I had an enlarger I could probably print through them given enough time.
I am sure I didn't give enough light in the re-exposure step.
The colors look to be correct which is the main goal.
I will try again soon.
Well, after first development, when I pulled the film out for light exposure, the black and white images were quite strong. I'm sure if I fixed the film then it would have given very acceptable b/w negatives
As fate would have it, I bought a camera with an exposed roll of Provia 400x inside so I gave it another go. This time I followed EarlZ instructions religiously. The process worked wonderfully. Unfortunately there were only 3 exposures on the roll and they appeared to be test flash shots of a white feather duster in a black box. Not very colorful or exciting. But it clearly worked and the edge markings came out beautifully.
My only complaint is it takes 30 ml of HC-110 per roll of 120 and I’m down to my last 100 cc. Time to order more HC-110 and a bottle of Rodinol to go with it. Or I could mix up some of the D-76 or X-Tol powder I have hanging around.
Think this'll work with rodinal? If so what do you think the times would be and what dilution.
No, I don't have any idea. I just am out of black and white developer. But it seems reasonable that Rodinal would work.. why not?
No, I don't have any idea. I just am out of black and white developer. But it seems reasonable that Rodinal would work.. why not?
Lets figure this out. Anyone got any formulas for C-41 in Rodinal? I'll guinea pig this with some expired film...
The formula uses HC-110 dilution A at 110°F. The strong dilution (1:15) and very high temperature (for HC-110) mean the development will be very strong, aiming to increase contrast A LOT.
This would be, in my opinion, consistent with what one does in B&W reversal, which is using a "contrast-working" developer.
Thus, any developer suitable for achieving the very high contrasts should work. Perhaps Rodinal but at a concentration good for developing paper (paper developers are much more strong). Or perhaps using Dektol!
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