How Good are Minolta MD-series Lenses?

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Matus Kalisky

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Thank you Theo. I would actually not worry too much about the leatherette, as I would probably get some nice leather from cameraleather.com :smile: I am surprised to hear that Minolta went "back" from titanium shutter i the XD-7 to cloth in X700.

Just checked some ebay offers - I have found quite some XD-7 offered as "defect" what surprised me (could be just a missing battery though).
 

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Don't forget the XE series!

As someone with a mild case of Minolta Acquisition Syndrome (my collection hovers in the mid 20s), I would also go with the XD-7/11 over the X-700 (or any of its plastic brethren) for all the reasons mentioned. If you fiddle around with both of them, the shutter thing would not be so surprising, as the general build quality of the later SLRs isn't comparable to the earlier stuff. While they certainly made great stuff all through their corporate lifespan, you do get the sense that in the 80's they were retreating into the consumer market somewhat. I do see X-700's on the bay go for WAY more than I'd ever spend on one, so someone out there must want them. :tongue:

As Minolta SLRs go, the XD series is basically considered the high point, and as a result you can see them go for quite a bit (relatively speaking! :smile:) on the bay, including quite a few junkers (and varying cases of shutter lag, which I really need to fix on mine).

You might also keep your eye out for the XE-1/7 (or 5, if you don't care for multiple exposure) which was one of the minolta/leica collaborations (very similar to the R3), and in a pinch could be used for self defense or door stoppage (basically the same size/heft as an SRT). As far as auto modes though, you are stuck with aperture priority. Granted, it also has a model specific issue: prism desilvering. But if, in 2012, yours has no desilvering, it probably isn't going to start now. If it is, well, it isn't hard to swap them out if you can find a replacement.

Fwiw, of all my Minoltas, the XEs are the ones I go out of my way to buy whenever I find them, so I can amass more spare parts. I'd like to have at least one functioning XE for the rest of my life.
 
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Hello, all,

I have dabbled in various "classic" 35mm MF systems, and have found Pentax screwmount gear and Canon FD mount equipment to my liking. I am thinking of picking up a Minolta X-series body and an MD lens or two. I gather that, since the major 35mm manufacturers were very competitve in the golden age, the Minolta MD lenses must be pretty good...or perhaps very good. Any opinions? Any tips?

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Glen

Over the years I have used various makes and have to say the Minolta MC lens are in my opinion the best. Notice I said MC not MD. MD's are still excellent lens.

I have several srT's, XE-7, XD-11. All except for the XD-11 are fully compatible with the MC's. The XD--11 only needs the MD to work with program mode.

A 50mm f/1.4 MC Rokkor-X PG can't be beat by the MD version even though both are excellent performers.
 

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...as far as the performance of the MD-series lenses is concerned, I have been using the MD 28mm/f2.8 and the MD 50mm/f1.4 a lot lately, and I don't have any complaints. You can see portraiture examples here and here.

Mind you, in that first link the Zenzanon medium format lens delivers a technically superior image, with more sharpness, better resolution and minimal grain, but the smaller format has its own aura and I really enjoy the Minolta lens rendering.
 

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The XE-7 has the smoothest shutter advance in my collection. You just have to experience it to believe it.
The XK was so far ahead of it's time. With MLU, it has the quietest shutter of all MLU capable bodies in my collection which I believe has the least vibration.

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Just how good was/is the XE series? I am looking for an X body and have found an XE that might become available in a couple weeks. The owner is trying to sell it as part of a hodgepodge lot and will sell it individually only if unsuccessful. Up thread, Fred de Van (former top-notch pro, since deceased) simply raves about how good they were.
 

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The XE series are competant solid cameras. The XE-7 is a full featured body with everything you need.Metered manual,aperture priority, multiple exposure,metal shutter, full view finder info,safe load signal,memo back,view finder shutter.

No winder capability.Heavy and large, compared to an XD-11.BUT a very nice body to use.
 

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The XE-7 has the smoothest shutter advance in my collection. You just have to experience it to believe it.
The XK was so far ahead of it's time. With MLU, it has the quietest shutter of all MLU capable bodies in my collection which I believe has the least vibration.

Les, how do you feel the XE advance rates against the F2? I consider the F2 to have one of the most satisfying advances of any camera I've ever used.

On another note, anyone ever remove the flash shoe from an SR-T 101? They annoy me and I wouldn't mind taking them off.

Here's one of my SR-Ts:

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The XE beats the F2 hands down for smooth advance.
 

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In what way though? Maybe I don't actually mean smooth, but pleasurable. :smile: For instance, as an F3 owner you know how the F3 advance feels, and you probably know how the F2 feels compared to the F3. To me the F2 is better than the F3 even though the F3 advance may feel more "fluid."
 

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I have the F, F2 & F3 but I have nothing in my tool box that has as smooth a full stroke as the XE-7. In the review of the Nikon F3's film advance, it points out the number of ball bearings used makes the others seem like they need lubrication but he's just kidding. Well if he had tried the XE-7 he would think the F3 needs lubrication . . . and he would not be kidding! Like I said, it has to be experienced.
 

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I have 4 F2's and 8 XE bodies. After a couple decades of use the XE is still smooth as silk and is more satisfying than the F2. I also have one each mint- F2 and XE-7 (this body has never shot a roll of film)bodies to eliminate wear from skewing the results of feel tests on the wind mechanism.
 

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[...] the XD7 is superior in every way. And the shutter is faster than 1/1000 (in AV mode it goes up to 1/1600 or so).

It's been a while but I want to follow up this topic. Since I found no hard data about this I decided to generate them.

Setup is a shutter speed test with a laser beam through the shutter hitting a photodiode. Curve is traced with a digital (professional) oscilloscope.

DUT: 2 XD-7, 2 X700
first XD-7 (a bit worn and sometimes slightly erratic): M 1/1000 is 1.5ms (1/670 s), fastest in A: 0.6ms (1/1666 s)
second XD-7 (in really good shape): M 1/1000 is 1.3ms (1/750 s), fastest in A: 0.5ms (1/2000 s)
first X700 (a bit worn, late model from China): M 1/1000 is 1.5ms (1/670 s), fastest in A: 1.15ms (1/870 s)
second X700 (in really good shape, pre-China): M 1/1000 is 1.0ms (1/1000 s), fastest in A: 0.7ms (1/1430 s)

Three cameras are faster than 1/1000 and the worn X700 probably would be after a CLA.
 

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Three cameras are faster than 1/1000 and the worn X700 probably would be after a CLA.

Or slower with the results you posted above.

In aperture priority, the shutter speed does not need to be a 'normal' number.


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Steve, the whole thing was about the max. achievable speed in A-Mode. Three cameras can be faster than 1/1000 in A-Mode.
 

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I see. Is there any explanation for the speeds being slower at 1/1000 set to manual?


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Probably time for a CLA. On the XD7 the mechanical speed (reported to be 1/100) was 12.5ms - I think the shutter just slowed down over age due to lubricants drying up.
The SRT's were off fare more after 30 years.
 
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