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Horseman 970 - Limits, Technique, Simulated Front Rise for Architectural Photography

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I didn't see all this information cleanly collected into one place. This morning, I did some testing of the "Simulated Front Rise" of the Horseman 970 6x9 camera.

To simulate front rise, you unlock the two bottom back connectors and extend them as far as possible before relocking them. Then push in the two front struts to drop the bed. These are both 15 degree movements so everything remains parallel, but now you have your lens risen in relation to the film, as well as focused closer. So you then need to push the front standard inward until it rests half-on, half-off the inside end of the rails.

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With the camera like this and parallel to the ground, you already have your horizon line close to the bottom of the frame, so it's a generous amount of rise. If you need more, you can use the actual front rise knob. The bellows will prevent full use of this knob, but by that time, you're already past having the horizon line out of the photo when the film back is level, so you shouldn't need it. Note that I'm using a light Nikkor-SW 90mm f/8. With a heavier lens, the rise knob on this camera might not have enough friction to hold it in place.

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Here's the side view of the setup without any front rise knob turning.

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There are several key points to take away from all this:

1) Due to the front standard almost being off the end of the rails, this technique cannot be used on lenses wider than 90mm (equivalent to 39mm in 35mm format). That would be limiting for interiors or anywhere you can't back up sufficiently.
2) On the Horseman 970, there is no equivalent generous movement in portrait orientation, so you are limited to landscape orientation. It might be doable on the 980 and others.
3) It appears the rangefinder still works, although you would probably want the ground glass anyway to compose, unless you came up with some clever custom finder.
4) The tripod has to hold the heavy camera body at a 15 degree angle. A weak travel tripod might fail you here.
5) With a 120mm or higher lens, I think you wouldn't run into the bellows limitation on rise anymore. You might be able to use a 210mm lens or at least get close since the infinity stop gets pushed about 30mm toward the camera. A 180mm would definitely be okay on a flat board. Not that you'd necessarily want front rise with such lenses.

I plan to test all this on exterior architecture soon.
 
Looking at the last photo I don’t understand what you are trying to do. The film plane and the lens board are both at 90 degrees from the ground. Normally the film plane is adjusted to not have distortion or keystoning and the lens is tilted for more depth of field.
 
Looking at the last photo I don’t understand what you are trying to do. The film plane and the lens board are both at 90 degrees from the ground. Normally the film plane is adjusted to not have distortion or keystoning and the lens is tilted for more depth of field.

In the last picture the lens is in the simulated front rise position. It will allow the whole building to be in the shot without keystoning, as you say. It can be risen more, with the front rise control, but the horizon line will already be about 1/4th from the bottom of the frame like this. It would help if I drew the central lens axis and film axis in the picture.
 
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You can also get rise and fall this way. Putting the camera on its side and using the side-to-side shift.

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According to this information, the Horseman 970 has front rise, so why do you need to simulate it?

With a 90mm lens you're able to use less than half of the normal front-rise control due to collision of the bellows and the top of the camera. It's not enough rise to avoid keystoning in architecture by itself. But when you use the simulated front rise plus a little real front rise, it gives you more than enough to avoid the keystoning.
 
A sunken lensboard should also help with a wide angle lens. Are they available for Horseman 970's?
 
Yes although you'd need to use a smaller lens than the one I'm using. 80mm lens boards can be a bit of a limitation.
 
Does anyone have an idea for how to attach a printed/machined wireframe part to these holes on the Horseman front standard, which could be snapped in and out quickly? I want to put something there that can be a guide for framing without the ground glass, when this simulated front rise configuration is used.

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The holes are 3.5mm so I'm going to try M3 screws.

I designed 3 parts in FreeCAD today for the wireframe finder and I'm going to have them laser cut from stainless steel. Starting to get the hang of the program now.

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Is there any value to hanging a view camera up upside down?

Did old press cameras ever get used that way, especially under tripods?
 
Is there any value to hanging a view camera up upside down?

Did old press cameras ever get used that way, especially under tripods?

Hmm, well if you needed front fall, that would be the way to get the largest front fall on the Horseman 970. One situation I can imagine that would come in handy is being on the top of a cliff or building and shooting what's below.
 
Hmm, well if you needed front fall, that would be the way to get the largest front fall on the Horseman 970. One situation I can imagine that would come in handy is being on the top of a cliff or building and shooting what's below.

One thing I visualize is those old sky scrapper shots of the Chrysler tower, etc, taken with 8"x10" and larger view cameras and the hunt for dynamic points of view.
 
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