Aside from them being film I don't see how APS or DISC are relevant. How the heck would Apugers enlarge (or scan ) either? I found a couple of exposed discs and scanning a radially symmetric circle is nothing but a nightmare; I can't imagine a more frustrating day in the darkroom.
I think we can all agree: Ferrania can skip both formats.
At that time, we in KRL could make coatings for disc cameras that just about matched 35mm.
After my late Mother was widowed, I bought her a Kodak disc camera (one of the more expensive models) but the results were totally disappointing (even with the more expensive Kodak "official" processing), grainy,
It was soon replaced by a simple point-and-shoot 35mm which she used successfully for several years, even into her 90's. Nice sharp prints, reasonably priced colour
Dave, my question is now this one:
I see there are super 8 cartridges from the first batch still available: how to book some of them?
Back to questions for Ferrania:
There have been a lot of suggestions for different things, and I think we've all noticed the merchandising on the website. At the risk of all the flak you'll get, can you share other merchandising ideas in you have in the works that we can look forward to? By the way, thanx for the down-loadable photos - they are now in rotation as my computer's wallpaper at work.
Hi Ron,
Sounds like an impressive achievement!! I read that this was the reason to go ahead with the Disc format (plus the aspheric lens on the camera and improved enlarging lenses that probably few labs took the time to use).
Did this finer grained emulsion technology made it to Kodak VR 100 (35mm), or did it take longer to appear on 35mm format?
Greetings,
Flavio.
As Fred said above, the plant gradually approached the quality of research coatings and eventually this was introduced into all films. Unfortunately, you as an average consumer have never compared old and new films sided by side. You complain about grain and sharpness, but the current films are way ahead in both compared to even the disc film of just 20 years ago!
You complain about grain and sharpness, but the current films are way ahead in both compared to even the disc film of just 20 years ago!
Nothing against 16mm and APS (I have zero opinion on either), but ULF options have still not been discussed at any length. Given the simplicity and volume associated with supplying ULF compared to perforated offerings, not to mention being the sole supplier on the global market for Colour, I find this strange...
My first digital imaging project at Kodak involved Disc film scan printing. It was designed to reduce the grain from Disc film images and it actually worked pretty well. Unfortunately, at the time, with the limited computer power available it took some pretty massive dedicated hardware to make it workable on a photofinishing scale.
One of the lessons here we should all remember is that it can be VERY difficult to scale up an emulsion from small research coating machines to production equipment.
ULF is somewhat simple, in theory... But our existing coater is relatively small and can only make film up to 8x10".
To produce ULF materials, we will need a bigger coater head - which is in the plans, but for the somewhat distant future...
This means that there we just don't have much to talk about at this point other than the simple concept that we are setting ourselves up to be able to produce a wide variety of formats from 8mm to 20x24" in a system that can allow for small batches to be produced alongside the "bread and butter" films.
Damn I'm really sorry about hijacking this thread. IMHO we should just stop with the nonsense and start another APS-only thread if somebody feel the need to discuss it any further.
I just asked about APS since Ferrania had the equipment to make it and it would be nice to know if they kept it. There is no need for immediate start of APS film manufacturing since I still can buy Fuji Nexia and B&W Kodak on eBay and so does everybody else.
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ULF is somewhat simple, in theory... But our existing coater is relatively small and can only make film up to 8x10".
To produce ULF materials, we will need a bigger coater head - which is in the plans, but for the somewhat distant future...
Prof_Pixel is very wise...
I've been speaking very loosely about the theoretical future possibilities of FILM Ferrania, and while we are truly optimistic about the future, everything currently falls into the category of "it remains to be seen"...
Does this mean that the maximum roll width that the LRF coater can currently handle is not alot more than 10 inches?
Does this essentially mean that the films we see produced in the LRF could very well be better than the same films that were mass produced by the large big boy coater?
Any plans for Ferrania black and white IR film (roll, sheet) in the future? Many people use it (including me) and the current selection is very poor.
As size goes up and speed goes up, quality actually gets better, at least at Kodak. I cannot speak for anyone else. And the problem in scaling varies from machine to machine and from making station to making station.
PE
Yes true, and correct me if im wrong, but the beauty with APS was that you could rewind the film, put in a new roll and shoot some on a different type of film, then switch back and the camera would read the data recorded magnetically and no how many frames was shot previously, allowing you to continue shooting from where you left.
I think this was a brilliant idea, and if you didnt shoot alot of film, you could always remove it from the camera and put it in the fridge etc.
If only APS was 35mm, it would have been a brilliant film format.
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