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I have to say that knowing Italian bureaucracy and how contracting with public money works I think their progress is pretty darn good. The asbestos thing was resolved quite quickly - in other cases I know stuff gets locked down and it can take many, many, many months to resolve. Also it seems they got all their certifications which is another no-so-simple thing.
What they really missed was the small time window to produce a first batch last march - for the rest if you compare their timelines it is pretty much all on track.
But I can't wait to see how their film is after all...
 
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I have to say that knowing Italian bureaucracy and how contracting with public money works I think their progress is pretty darn good. The asbestos thing was resolved quite quickly - in other cases I know stuff gets locked down and it can take many, many, many months to resolve. Also it seems they got all their certifications which is another no-so-simple thing.
What they really missed was the small time window to produce a first batch last march - for the rest if you compare their timelines it is pretty much all on track.
But I can't wait to see how their film is after all...

This is the same sense I get when describing the effort to other (non-APUG) members who claim deeper knowledge of the Italian bureaucracy than I have. Their opinion, after hearing my descriptions, is that given the system which must be worked, things are actually moving along quite nicely.

I have no reason to doubt their assessment. However, YMMV as a function of your own levels of knowledge...

:smile:

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I had a dream a few nights ago... I dreamed that I'd just got my first roll of Ferraniachrome back from the lab. It was gorgeous. All were perfectly exposed and had perfect contrast. All of the photos were keepers. And then I woke up.

But seriously, knowing how slow the US government is at some things, and then from what I've read about Italian bureaucracy on APUG and on Ferrania's website, it sounds like things are going very well. I'm looking forward to shooting some Ferrania soon - hopefully this year!
 

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This is the same sense I get when describing the effort to other (non-APUG) members who claim deeper knowledge of the Italian bureaucracy than I have. Their opinion, after hearing my descriptions, is that given the system which must be worked, things are actually moving along quite nicely.

I have no reason to doubt their assessment. However, YMMV as a function of your own levels of knowledge...

:smile:

Ken

In the past 12 months, our founders have spent every minute of their time doing the following:

Nicola - wrangling the Regione Liguria and the TWO different companies, both owned by Regione Liguria, who have (in the past) had some say about what goes on in the LRF. This has meant frequent 6 hour trips (3 hours each way) from his home in Florence, as well as visits to officials in Genoa and even a couple of trips down to Rome. The endless paperwork he and his lawyer have generated is mind-boggling, and the general disregard for anything resembling a schedule or timeline has certainly taken a toll on his psyche. In addition, he's maintained regular communications with me here in the US, he's taken meetings with a wide variety of potential future partners, and this past summer, he even managed to drum up some freelance work for a couple of guys on our team.

Marco - living in a cold office in the LRF for months at a time to serve as General Contractor to the 20+ different teams who have done one thing or another to the building - none of whom had any idea of the overall plan. He has had to fight to maintain quality control, scheduling conflicts, and days, sometimes weeks at a time where someone was supposed to show up but didn't. In between all of this, he and Corrado (who has also been very active) have gone over every inch of the LRF, making to-do lists AND they have managed to salvage another 10-15 tons of equipment and materials that we will eventually put to use. I can't say what exactly, but some really exciting stuff.

Being privy to this second-hand glimpse into the inner workings of (part of) the Italian government, I have developed a profound respect for Nico and Marco.

We're posting a new video soon - keep your eyes peeled.
 

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In the past 12 months, our founders have spent every minute of their time doing the following:

Nicola - wrangling the Regione Liguria and the TWO different companies, both owned by Regione Liguria, who have (in the past) had some say about what goes on in the LRF. This has meant frequent 6 hour trips (3 hours each way) from his home in Florence, as well as visits to officials in Genoa and even a couple of trips down to Rome. The endless paperwork he and his lawyer have generated is mind-boggling, and the general disregard for anything resembling a schedule or timeline has certainly taken a toll on his psyche. In addition, he's maintained regular communications with me here in the US, he's taken meetings with a wide variety of potential future partners, and this past summer, he even managed to drum up some freelance work for a couple of guys on our team.

Marco - living in a cold office in the LRF for months at a time to serve as General Contractor to the 20+ different teams who have done one thing or another to the building - none of whom had any idea of the overall plan. He has had to fight to maintain quality control, scheduling conflicts, and days, sometimes weeks at a time where someone was supposed to show up but didn't. In between all of this, he and Corrado (who has also been very active) have gone over every inch of the LRF, making to-do lists AND they have managed to salvage another 10-15 tons of equipment and materials that we will eventually put to use. I can't say what exactly, but some really exciting stuff.

Being privy to this second-hand glimpse into the inner workings of (part of) the Italian government, I have developed a profound respect for Nico and Marco.

We're posting a new video soon - keep your eyes peeled.
Well done guys-great effort!:cool:
 
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...AND they have managed to salvage another 10-15 tons of equipment and materials that we will eventually put to use. I can't say what exactly, but some really exciting stuff.

Ha! The 220 machines! I knew it!!

(Just kidding, Dave. Again. Honest. Really...)

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The latest update: "We are happy to announce that as of April 1st, 2016, FILM Ferrania s.r.l. became an officially certified manufacturer. "
 

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The latest update: "We are happy to announce that as of April 1st, 2016, FILM Ferrania s.r.l. became an officially certified manufacturer. "

Can you please indicate the source? On their site the last announcement that I can find is the article on the Italian newspaper La Repubblica, January 2015.

Besides, I have never heard of an "officially certified manufacturer" title in Italy. It probably means they obtained some permission for certain productions (chemicals) that need a permission to start production.
 
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Look at the date of the comment.
Nope, it isn't an April Fools joke.
It came today on an email detailing a Kickstarter project update.
There is also something else, but that is for the backers.
 

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Can you please indicate the source? On their site the last announcement that I can find is the article on the Italian newspaper La Repubblica, January 2015.

Besides, I have never heard of an "officially certified manufacturer" title in Italy. It probably means they obtained some permission for certain productions (chemicals) that need a permission to start production.

Ferrania sent that message overnight to their backers. Now in the eyes of the Italian government, they are a manufacturer and not a research group. It's a big move forward for them.
 

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I am not a backer(I was just getting into film at the time), but eagerly following this project. The update in question: Dead Link Removed .
 

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"certified manufacturer" means that their building can now house a production factory vs a research lab. Under Italian law you cannot just open a factory in your garage for example - you have to follow a very complex set of rules for security, emissions, waste, etc. If you do not have the correct certifications you may have the police (actually it's called Guardia di Finanza in this case) showing up to your door and shutting you down.
 

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Recently, I started to grow a particular disgust for hashtags, as they get more and more popular in the mainstream media. But, this time, I felt good when I read #filmisalive

Way to go, Ferrania! I am not a backer, but I'm definitely buying your film when it's available!


Cheers.
Flavio
 

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The latest update: "We are happy to announce that as of April 1st, 2016, FILM Ferrania s.r.l. became an officially certified manufacturer. "

When I got this email the other day it made me happy.
This is why I backed the project. Not for a few rolls of film, but for knowing that I helped get a new company off the ground.
(of course, I'm still hanging out for my rolls to chuck them through my 617 and I'll be happy when that happens too).
But for now, they're a 'real' factory, and everyone who backed them has helped make it happen.
 
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