Well sadly I was in the same boat, along with many others who bought a stockpile of the film to keep going for a few years.You raise a very good point! Yesterday on Instagram, a friend of mine posted that he was shocked how many people were posting photos of their own personal "stash" of Ektachrome in the wake of Kodak's announcement. He was shocked because people seemed to be proud to show film that they haven't actually used while at the same time claiming to be excited about Kodak's announcement...
This hoarding/stashing/freezing issue is of course a big big problem for all film companies in general - one that has been gaining some attention lately in the online film community. I've actually seen the hashtag #shootyourshit being used in online posts - and I could not agree more.
We're not quite sure at this point how we can truly tackle this problem, but it's most certainly on our minds...
You raise a very good point! Yesterday on Instagram, a friend of mine posted that he was shocked how many people were posting photos of their own personal "stash" of Ektachrome in the wake of Kodak's announcement. He was shocked because people seemed to be proud to show film that they haven't actually used while at the same time claiming to be excited about Kodak's announcement...
This hoarding/stashing/freezing issue is of course a big big problem for all film companies in general - one that has been gaining some attention lately in the online film community. I've actually seen the hashtag #shootyourshit being used in online posts - and I could not agree more.
We're not quite sure at this point how we can truly tackle this problem, but it's most certainly on our minds...
E6 is not in a healthy state at this time. If it is to survive into the medium-term, a huge lot of E6 film across all manufacturers that we currently have must be consumed. The fact that throughput is so small through commercial processors is worrying enough because the process is filthy and wears out machines; the more films going through them, the better their operation over the longer term. Once the machines are clapped out through lack of use, they are very rarely (if at all) replaced anew. It's cheaper and most cost effective in terms of business to simply dump E6 processing. I have seen this with many labs with their machines too far gone to be salvaged.
Processing one or two rolls now and then doesn't cut it. Twenty to thirty rolls in a fortnightly period, continuing, is a good improvement, but thousands of photographers should be doing just that. They are not. It's all talk, little action. All of that E6 consumption should be done now, not at such a time in the future intedeterminate another film should make an appearance (Ektachrome, Ferrania) and somehow, the world is saved!. Ektachrome would require expansion beyond the 35mm format to MF and LF where the take-up would be more appealing. How well Ferrania fares in a global market that so many (outside the wizened confines of APUG) would be challenged to recognise the name (if at all) remains to be seen.
Dont expect E100VS back any time soon for this reason.
Not really the hoarding thing but I bought huge stash of kodak sheet film in the late ninetiesThis hoarding thing is fairly prevalent here on APUG, this ferreting way of film, waiting... for the resurrection day (I'll bet you there are bricks and bricks of Kodachrome stashed away just for that purpose!). People need to consider the problem this causes to manufacturers (as you have rightly pointed out), rather than satisfy some fetish about ream upon ream of unopened film.
This hoarding thing is fairly prevalent here on APUG, this ferreting way of film, waiting... for the resurrection day (I'll bet you there are bricks and bricks of Kodachrome stashed away just for that purpose!). People need to consider the problem this causes to manufacturers (as you have rightly pointed out), rather than satisfy some fetish about ream upon ream of unopened film.
And with that, I order about $700-$1,300 a year to replace what I use, and I do use it. What this does for me is mitigate price increases, shortages and god forbid, discontinuation of products. It's not hoarding and sitting on it, it's using it and it is business.
Quite true, i bought my film with the intention of shooting it all, and I will also benefit with the likely lower price I paid for each roll at the time also!I don't consider what you do to be hoarding either. Hoarding is buying and not shooting (then gleefully posting Instagrams of the hoard for some bizarre reason). I perfectly understand hedging against discontinuations and generally having a large stock on hand if you are a pro or artist. But like you said - it gets shot - and that is the critical distinction between what you do and hoarding.
It does not surprise me one little bit that they have announced the re-introduction of E100g.
The reason being is that they intend to make it available in the super8 format for their new super8 camera.
I suspect Kodak have done significant market research and have found that there will be enough market for super8 alone to start production again.
They also know there is still market for selling it in 35mm format which they can dispose of the surplus from each run onto...
Dont expect E100VS back any time soon for this reason.
Kodak has made no such announcement. The film under development, E100, is to be an entirely new formulation. Its characteristics, including how it will compare to E100G, are unknown at this time.It does not surprise me one little bit that they have announced the re-introduction of E100g...
Kodak has made no such announcement. The film under development, E100, is to be an entirely new formulation. Its characteristics, including how it will compare to E100G, are unknown at this time.
There are many folks here on APUG, who constantly claim, that color reversal film is a doomed product line. When E100VS was discontinued, many experts here made it quite clear, that Ektachrome won't ever come back, that there is ridiculously low and still declining demand for color reversal film products period. I loved E100VS, and still do, and I can still shoot it frequently thanks to the large stash I bought when I heard about its discontinuation.This hoarding thing is fairly prevalent here on APUG, this ferreting way of film, waiting... for the resurrection day (I'll bet you there are bricks and bricks of Kodachrome stashed away just for that purpose!). People need to consider the problem this causes to manufacturers (as you have rightly pointed out), rather than satisfy some fetish about ream upon ream of unopened film.
Kodak has made no such announcement. The film under development, E100, is to be an entirely new formulation. Its characteristics, including how it will compare to E100G, are unknown at this time.
See this post:What makes you think that?...
However, Ektachrome is not Ektachrome is not Ektachrome.What makes you think that? The tone of the announcement (which might be marketing bullstuff, but I don't see why it should) says things like "reintroducing the iconic KODAK PROFESSIONAL EKTACHROME Color Reversal Film", "KODAK PROFESSIONAL EKTACHROME Film has a distinctive look that was the choice for generations of photographers before being discontinued in 2012.". That seems to want to communicate that Kodak is reintroducing the product, the "recipe" that was discontinued in 2012, presumably with identical final results.
I could see it coming back after their announcement of the new Super8 camera, it seemed pretty logical to me that they would want a reversal film available for projection.I too thought that Ektachrome would never come back and here it is ---. But, I still emphatically state that it will be different for a number of reasons.
PE
See this post:
(there was a url link here which no longer exists)
I too thought that Ektachrome would never come back and here it is ---. But, I still emphatically state that it will be different for a number of reasons.
PE
You raise a very good point! Yesterday on Instagram, a friend of mine posted that he was shocked how many people were posting photos of their own personal "stash" of Ektachrome in the wake of Kodak's announcement. He was shocked because people seemed to be proud to show film that they haven't actually used while at the same time claiming to be excited about Kodak's announcement...
This hoarding/stashing/freezing issue is of course a big big problem for all film companies in general - one that has been gaining some attention lately in the online film community. I've actually seen the hashtag #shootyourshit being used in online posts - and I could not agree more.
We're not quite sure at this point how we can truly tackle this problem, but it's most certainly on our minds...
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