Hello APUG from FILM Ferrania (PART 2)

[Photo Engineer]

It reported here that it was further north than the last one and I believe that Ferrania lies in that direction.

PE

 

[Nzoomed]

It reported here that it was further north than the last one and I believe that Ferrania lies in that direction.

PE

OK, they said central Italy in our news report and the report claimed that the buildings destroyed had already suffered damage from the last quake.
Ferrania is right up the top of Italy.

 

[Nzoomed]

Latest update from the team:

If your reading this Dave, is it possible to show us the parts saved from Bigboy, Walter and Trixie?

Its quite obvious that there was alot more saved than just those 3 cruical components, but its sure good news to see all this equipment saved!

 

[FILM Ferrania]

If your reading this Dave, is it possible to show us the parts saved from Bigboy, Walter and Trixie?

Its quite obvious that there was alot more saved than just those 3 cruical components, but its sure good news to see all this equipment saved!

Those "three" components are actually hundreds upon hundreds of pieces. The truth is that there may well be things from Big Boy or Walter in this video and there are more scattered around our other storage buildings.

Trixie is still in place. The demolition of the building was only partial and at the opposite end from our machines. Marco sealed off the space to protect "her" from harm. We expect to hear the government's plans for the building after the new year, and we will act accordingly.

The video is actually just over 1 minute of what is now at least 100 hours of footage (and thousands of photos) Nicola has captured over the past two years.

We're actually installing a document management system so we can begin to truly catalog and add metadata to all of the material. This is the only way we can make sense of it for future posts, and only then will we be able to properly identify what is what.

There won't be any sort of "group shot" of the Kickstarter Trio, but we will certainly point out these pieces when we can...

 

[Nzoomed]

Those "three" components are actually hundreds upon hundreds of pieces. The truth is that there may well be things from Big Boy or Walter in this video and there are more scattered around our other storage buildings.

Trixie is still in place. The demolition of the building was only partial and at the opposite end from our machines. Marco sealed off the space to protect "her" from harm. We expect to hear the government's plans for the building after the new year, and we will act accordingly.

The video is actually just over 1 minute of what is now at least 100 hours of footage (and thousands of photos) Nicola has captured over the past two years.

We're actually installing a document management system so we can begin to truly catalog and add metadata to all of the material. This is the only way we can make sense of it for future posts, and only then will we be able to properly identify what is what.

There won't be any sort of "group shot" of the Kickstarter Trio, but we will certainly point out these pieces when we can...

Thats fine!
Its pretty exciting indeed to see all that valuable equipment saved, i can identify some conversion equipment in that video, but its truly mindblowing how much stuff you have managed to save.

Would it be possible to keep using trixie in the existing building?
I imagine that it would be a huge undertaking to shift all that machinery and the large casting wheels etc, i guess it would be ideal if you were able to keep the operations running in that building?

 

[Diapositivo]

A nice cataloguing work awaing for people at Ferrania.
For each piece I suppose a description of what they do and how they do, some pointer to some document, is mandatory.
Some of these pieces might be needed in 20 years time, when the memory, or the persons themselves, (having emigrated to Rochester ) might not be there to help.

Nice choice of music, "in the hall of the mountain king", it cannot be coincidental. There must be some classical music lover at Ferrania, definitely! (mon semblable, mon frère).

 

[flavio81]

Those "three" components are actually hundreds upon hundreds of pieces. The truth is that there may well be things from Big Boy or Walter in this video and there are more scattered around our other storage buildings.

Trixie is still in place. The demolition of the building was only partial and at the opposite end from our machines. Marco sealed off the space to protect "her" from harm. We expect to hear the government's plans for the building after the new year, and we will act accordingly.

The video is actually just over 1 minute of what is now at least 100 hours of footage (and thousands of photos) Nicola has captured over the past two years.

We're actually installing a document management system so we can begin to truly catalog and add metadata to all of the material. This is the only way we can make sense of it for future posts, and only then will we be able to properly identify what is what.

There won't be any sort of "group shot" of the Kickstarter Trio, but we will certainly point out these pieces when we can...

Hi Dave,

Since a request was made some posts above, may i also make another request?

I'd like to see interviews on the core members of the team, or at least interviews to Corrado and Ezio. It would be interesting to hear how do they feel regarding their role here and what do they like more about their jobs.( I'm sure the forumers here will have more questions to suggest).

Thanks,
Flavio.

 

[FILM Ferrania]

Thats fine!
Its pretty exciting indeed to see all that valuable equipment saved, i can identify some conversion equipment in that video, but its truly mindblowing how much stuff you have managed to save.

Would it be possible to keep using trixie in the existing building?
I imagine that it would be a huge undertaking to shift all that machinery and the large casting wheels etc, i guess it would be ideal if you were able to keep the operations running in that building?

This video just shows a tiny portion of the salvaged equipment. When I asked Nicola, he said you can see only about 10-15% of what we have.

During the long delay last summer, Marco walked the campus several more times and tagged stuff just because it hadn't yet been destroyed. The pallet jack you see him pulling in the video got a lot of use in those months as he painstakingly filled pallet after pallet with "junk" that could have some use in the future. Also, they have a friend with a front-loader and he was called in on a couple of occasions to move things Marco could not do by himself.

Regarding Trixie, we simply do not know... We have certainly floated the idea that we would rent the space and repair it, if allowed - but the government is at a standstill with regard to the campus demolitions and will make no more decisions until after the new year.

You are right of course that we would rather not move Trixie. The costs are pretty much the same... Either we pay to fix the current building, or pay to have everything moved. It's simply safer for the equipment if we can rent the building...

 

[FILM Ferrania]

A nice cataloguing work awaing for people at Ferrania.
For each piece I suppose a description of what they do and how they do, some pointer to some document, is mandatory.
Some of these pieces might be needed in 20 years time, when the memory, or the persons themselves, (having emigrated to Rochester ) might not be there to help.

Nice choice of music, "in the hall of the mountain king", it cannot be coincidental. There must be some classical music lover at Ferrania, definitely! (mon semblable, mon frère).

As I mentioned, we will be installing a document management system in the next few weeks. Already, work has begun to digitize our IP, procedural manuals, and other documents from the 3M era. To this database we will add the vast material that Nicola has captured from his walks around the campus. At some point in the future, we will then be able to distinctly identify each and every machine, or part of a machine, in our storage.

For now, it's all in Marco's encyclopedic brain.

With regard to the music, my classical knowledge is limited to the "big stuff", but I know a perfect piece for a short video when I hear it! Plus, there is a lot of classical music that is free to use for such purposes...

 

[FILM Ferrania]

Hi Dave,

Since a request was made some posts above, may i also make another request?

I'd like to see interviews on the core members of the team, or at least interviews to Corrado and Ezio. It would be interesting to hear how do they feel regarding their role here and what do they like more about their jobs.( I'm sure the forumers here will have more questions to suggest).

Thanks,
Flavio.

We will be introducing the team in a deeper way in the coming weeks and months. Next week, we hope to introduce everyone to The Chef - who is a new team member!

Not everyone is comfortable being on camera, but one way or the other, I feel it is imperative that the world gets to know our team.

 

[FILM Ferrania]

Is there any real difference (aside from maybe the possibility of unlabeled rebates) between actual "Ferrania Solaris" and the contemporary private label films made by Film Ferrania?

After getting enthused around some of the posts here, particularly by Nzoomed, and wanting to try some for myself, I've picked up the following:
ca. 2005 Kroger 200 speed film ("Made in Italy")
ca. 2007 Clark 200 speed film ("Made in Italy")
ca. 2009 "Super HD 200" film - known generic Ferrania label.
ca. 2009 "HP 100" film, no boxes, and presumed by seller to be Konica, but in non-annotated cartridges identical in labeling style to the Ferrania cartridges above, and using a letter prefix that matches Imation's film letters.

The answer, direct from Nicola, when asked "Are these Solaris in a different package":
"I can reply 99% yes. I never heard about Clark but the fact that is “made in Italy” leave no doubts! "

 

[cmacd123]

The answer, direct from Nicola, when asked "Are these Solaris in a different package":
"I can reply 99% yes. I never heard about Clark but the fact that is “made in Italy” leave no doubts! "

the Imation folks were probably under contract to NOT identify the source of any of the private label film. (Although I got some Arista 400 Colour Negative that said IMATION on the edge printing. My guess is the relatively small volume sold under the 3M or Imation Brand was unlikely to justify a separate separate formuala. Somewhat like the Foma B&W where they quietly updated the data sheet to say the edge printing may say Fomapan or sometimes ULTRA.... (which is the marking for Arista EDU Ultra film)

 

[Nzoomed]

The answer, direct from Nicola, when asked "Are these Solaris in a different package":
"I can reply 99% yes. I never heard about Clark but the fact that is “made in Italy” leave no doubts! "

Yes I would second that, I actually remember seeing a listing on Ebay for the films mentioned by Meyer, I suspect he bought that auction.
If it says "Made in Italy" it has to be made by Ferrania.

 

[Nzoomed]

I hope everyone is OK after the third earthquake last night!
It was a 6.6 but no reports of damage from what I gather, seems to be in the same central area like the last two quakes.

When a fault breaks, its quite common for more aftershocks to happen over a few months.
I know what its like first hand, in 2010 and 2011, we had some big earthquakes in Christchurch New Zealand and the aftershocks went on for a good couple of years or more.

My thoughts go out to those affected.

 

[Diapositivo]

This last one was stronger than this summer's one, with 6.5 magnitude on the Richter scale it was the strongest since the earthquake in 1980, which made almost 3.000 dead (some say 6.5, some say 6.9 in 1980).
Yesterday no victims at all, partially because it happened over a zone recently struck by another earthquake this summer, which was 5.9.

One of the most damaged town was Castelluccio di Norcia, a fraction of Norcia, famous for its high-grown lentils.
The town of Norcia was also badly damaged.

The "concathedral" had been damaged in another earthquake and rebuilt in the XVII or XVIII century, but the façade is the original medieval one. In this earthquake, again, the roof and side walls crumbled, but the medieval façade remained standing.

http://www.ilfattoquotidiano.it/201...ma-come-se-fosse-venuta-giu-la-citta/3132253/

This earthquake was felt all along the adriatic coast, from Apulia up to the border with Slovenia and Austria. I don't think it was felt at Ferrania, although it arrived here in Rome in a pretty frightening way and made some minor damages (Mazzini bridge, Saint Paul's Basilica). Even if felt, I don't think it could have done any damage in Ferrania.

Also in Cascia heavy damages.

For those into the cult of saints, Norcia is obviously the birth city of Saint Benedict and Cascia is the birth city of St. Rita, so you might have already heard those otherwise pretty small towns.

 

[Meyer Trioplan]

Yes I would second that, I actually remember seeing a listing on Ebay for the films mentioned by Meyer, I suspect he bought that auction.
If it says "Made in Italy" it has to be made by Ferrania.

Guilty as charged! Had a little Ferrania Frenzy spurred in part by your own enthusiasm.

I've shot a few rolls on these films, and have loaded one amid a batch reel to develop in the Unicolor kit, but have yet to put them into the "soup." One thing I did favorably notice was just how easily this film loaded onto the metal spools compared to the other 35mm stock I'd done on prior batches - no crimping at all!

 

[FILM Ferrania]

I hope everyone is OK after the third earthquake last night!
It was a 6.6 but no reports of damage from what I gather, seems to be in the same central area like the last two quakes.

When a fault breaks, its quite common for more aftershocks to happen over a few months.
I know what its like first hand, in 2010 and 2011, we had some big earthquakes in Christchurch New Zealand and the aftershocks went on for a good couple of years or more.

My thoughts go out to those affected.

The recent earthquakes have been far south of Ferrania, roughly clustered in the same general area. These quakes have been tragic for that region, but fortunately our team or facilities are well out of harms' way.

 

[Nzoomed]

Guilty as charged! Had a little Ferrania Frenzy spurred in part by your own enthusiasm.

I've shot a few rolls on these films, and have loaded one amid a batch reel to develop in the Unicolor kit, but have yet to put them into the "soup." One thing I did favorably notice was just how easily this film loaded onto the metal spools compared to the other 35mm stock I'd done on prior batches - no crimping at all!

Thats great to hear!
Will be interesting to see your results.

Ive got a roll of FGplus 100 in my Olympus XA3.

IDK if there is much difference in grain between the film speeds from ISO 100 to ISO 800, but the 100 speed films seem to be demanding a higher price than the faster speeds.

Also of interest, while searching for films, i found this. I never knew Ferrania were doing digital cameras!
lol
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fotocamera-...hash=item2362fa2c73:m:mAlfw76WqKVj1bz0yuTQeSw

 

[Diapositivo]

The recent earthquakes have been far south of Ferrania, roughly clustered in the same general area. These quakes have been tragic for that region, but fortunately our team or facilities are well out of harms' way.

The seismic risk for the province of Savona, and the district "Cairo Montenotte" in particular, is 4, very low.
http://www.tuttitalia.it/liguria/provincia-di-savona/rischio-sismico/

The classification follows these statistical criteria:
http://www.tuttitalia.it/liguria/45-savona/rischio-sismico/

The earthquake provoked by digital photography was destructive enough...

 

[FILM Ferrania]

Here's the latest update!

Dead Link Removed

 

[fdonadio]

I would love to help in that "kitchen"...

 

[Nzoomed]

Here's the latest update!

Dead Link Removed

Thanks for the update!

Looking forward to the first test run on the coater!
Just a question on the chemicals, it seems your stock is very old and it appears many of these chemicals are stable and dont degrade with age.

Are you able to tell me if some of these same 50+ year old chemicals had been used right up to the last coating run by Ferrania Technologies?

 

[FILM Ferrania]

Are you able to tell me if some of these same 50+ year old chemicals had been used right up to the last coating run by Ferrania Technologies?

I'm not directly able to confirm that, however our stock of chemistry came directly from the former operations. It's plausible that they used up all of the "newer" components in their final runs, but it seems unlikely to be the case across the board. I'll pose the question to the founders and report back.

 

[twelvetone12]

So, how does one get to be sous-chef in Ferrania?

 

[Diapositivo]

So, how does one get to be sous-chef in Ferrania?

You first have to be proficient in the basics:

http://www.giallozafferano.it/ricette-cat/regionali/Liguria/
http://www.cucchiaio.it/cucina/cucina-tipica-italiana/liguria/



(mind you, not many pastures for cows in Liguria. The traditional local meat is rabbit. You have been warned