Hello APUG from FILM Ferrania (PART 2)

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I believe they’re also working on getting 120 ready too on their p30.

yes thats correct

 

[Don Harpold]

Hello
Here is the latest from my Leica IIIg
The developing info is in the title of the album and the ISO I used is under the photo description
https://www.flickr.com/photos/45govt/albums/72157691016142270
And just one to show

 

[Harry Callahan]

Nice shot, nice car, nice film ( )!

 

[mshchem]

Hello
Here is the latest from my Leica IIIg
The developing info is in the title of the album and the ISO I used is under the photo description
https://www.flickr.com/photos/45govt/albums/72157691016142270
And just one to show
View attachment 200557

Well done. What is the developer? I've never heard of it. So glad Ferrania has found a lifeline in this lovely film. Have you made traditional prints. The scans are beautiful!
Best Mike

 

[mshchem]

Hello
Here is the latest from my Leica IIIg
The developing info is in the title of the album and the ISO I used is under the photo description
https://www.flickr.com/photos/45govt/albums/72157691016142270
And just one to show
View attachment 200557

OK I found the Paranol S Tetenal.

 

[Prest_400]

Well done. What is the developer? I've never heard of it. So glad Ferrania has found a lifeline in this lovely film. Have you made traditional prints. The scans are beautiful!
Best Mike

OK I found the Paranol S Tetenal.

Had to search too, just for reference: "Paranol S is a ‘compensating’ developer based on p-Aminophenol". Is it a sort of Rodinal clone?
Those results look very good. I've seen some P30 being crazy contrasty on ordinary developers, might be nice to eventually try it out in 120.
Hope the LRF team is having a fun time.

Too bad I ain't a millionaire, but that Logmar 65mm and some long feet of P30 might do a nice couple.

 

[peter k.]

Is it a sort of Rodinal clone?

from Freestyle:
"Features

• One shot film developer
• Dilution 1:25 or 1:50
• Comparable to Agfa Rodinal"

 

[FILM Ferrania]

It's not dead....there's just not been an update from Film Ferrania for a little over a month....so nothing much to talk about until Dave chimes on or until there's another update.
In the meantime I tend to assume the boys and girls at Ferrania are working to produce film, solve the problems and that the local government is beginning to do it's thing with the building.
And no doubt others assume Ferrania has already failed.

Your assumption is correct - although we are currently at the mercy of the Italian government to finish their work sufficiently that our boys and girls can get back to work.

As of today, we expect that when production can resume, it will be continuous - instead of the sporadic batches of the last year.

This is primarily because we have found a solution to move 35mm converting in-house immediately when production resumes!

 

[jogr]

As of today, we expect that when production can resume, it will be continuous - instead of the sporadic batches of the last year.

This is primarily because we have found a solution to move 35mm converting in-house immediately when production resumes!

Bingo!!
Is that only for Ferrania,or have you lego conversion contracts that helps the cash-flow situation?

/Johan

 

[faberryman]

This is primarily because we have found a solution to move 35mm converting in-house immediately when production resumes!

What exactly does "35mm converting" mean?

 

[warden]

Your assumption is correct - although we are currently at the mercy of the Italian government to finish their work sufficiently that our boys and girls can get back to work.

As of today, we expect that when production can resume, it will be continuous - instead of the sporadic batches of the last year.

This is primarily because we have found a solution to move 35mm converting in-house immediately when production resumes!

Continuous production sounds awfully good to me! I look forward to shooting more of this film asap. Good luck!

 

[Agulliver]

That is fantastic news.

Conversion, as I understand it and has been explained here, is the process by which the film material gets perforated, has the rebate logo and numbers exposed and ultimately ends up in 35mm cassettes which in turn are in plastic tubs, which in turn are in cardboard boxes.

 

[wblynch]

Great. then it's on to COLOR Film. Right? (you didn't forget..?)

 

[fdonadio]

What exactly does "35mm converting" mean?

I think Dave can giver a better answer, but my understanding is that “35mm converting” means “slitting, perforating and loading into cartridges”. Then there’s packaging, which I assume is not that hard.

Edit: like @Agulliver said, there’s the rebate “signature” and frame numbering too.

 

[fdonadio]

This is primarily because we have found a solution to move 35mm converting in-house immediately when production resumes!

This is f***ing awesome news!

 

[cmacd123]

As of today, we expect that when production can resume, it will be continuous - instead of the sporadic batches of the last year.
This is primarily because we have found a solution to move 35mm converting in-house immediately when production resumes!

>WOW< that is excellent news. I guess this is using some of the equipment in a new way, or did the folks get the big packing line running while they were waiting to get back in the LRF?

IN any case that is a major roadblock out of the way towards the goals of the project.

 

[Diapositivo]

Your assumption is correct - although we are currently at the mercy of the Italian government to finish their work sufficiently that our boys and girls can get back to work.

As of today, we expect that when production can resume, it will be continuous - instead of the sporadic batches of the last year.

This is primarily because we have found a solution to move 35mm converting in-house immediately when production resumes!

Wonderful news.
I hope you are at the mercy of the Ligurian government.

[I really hope Ferrania does not depend from decisions from the two imb... persons who are trying to form a governement at the moment. Just a side note political rant].

 

[RattyMouse]

This is primarily because we have found a solution to move 35mm converting in-house immediately when production resumes!

Congratulations on that.

 

[FILM Ferrania]

Wonderful news.
I hope you are at the mercy of the Ligurian government.

[I really hope Ferrania does not depend from decisions from the two imb... persons who are trying to form a governement at the moment. Just a side note political rant].

Yes, it is the Ligurian government, specifically.

 

[FILM Ferrania]

What exactly does "35mm converting" mean?

We made a video!

 

[FILM Ferrania]

>WOW< that is excellent news. I guess this is using some of the equipment in a new way, or did the folks get the big packing line running while they were waiting to get back in the LRF?

IN any case that is a major roadblock out of the way towards the goals of the project.

We did not get the big automated 35mm line running (the price tag on that remains high), but we found an interim solution that is very workable. It pretty much accomplishes the same thing - removing the bottleneck - although it's not quite as "deluxe" as the fully automated line.

 

[FILM Ferrania]

Great. then it's on to COLOR Film. Right? (you didn't forget..?)

We did not forget. Even putting aside our obligation to Kickstarter backers - we've got no viable company over the long term if we don't make color.

Excluding Ilford, Kodak and to a large degree, Foma - everybody else who sells B&W 35mm/120 film outsources it to one degree or another. This can be done with B&W somewhat economically (although it IS getting more difficult). Outsourcing color film production is orders of magnitude more difficult and expensive, which is why fewer small brands sell color film.

And even THEN, most of the color film in the market not from Kodak or Fuji is some variant on an Agfa emulsion - most times, "straight from the can" or with some minor tweaks.

As I've mentioned elsewhere before - in all of photographic history, there have only been 5 companies who manufacture color film from scratch. In historical order: Kodak, Agfa, Ferrania, Fuji and Svema (although, maybe Svema was before Fuji... Not clear on the precise dates.)

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on this, but this is what our best research efforts have been able to uncover about the history of color film.

 

[Ces1um]

We did not forget. Even putting aside our obligation to Kickstarter backers - we've got no viable company over the long term if we don't make color.

Excluding Ilford, Kodak and to a large degree, Foma - everybody else who sells B&W 35mm/120 film outsources it to one degree or another. This can be done with B&W somewhat economically (although it IS getting more difficult). Outsourcing color film production is orders of magnitude more difficult and expensive, which is why fewer small brands sell color film.
And even THEN, most of the color film in the market not from Kodak or Fuji is some variant on an Agfa emulsion - most times, "straight from the can" or with some minor tweaks.
As I've mentioned elsewhere before - in all of photographic history, there have only been 5 companies who manufacture color film from scratch. In historical order: Kodak, Agfa, Ferrania, Fuji and Svema (although, maybe Svema was before Fuji... Not clear on the precise dates.)
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on this, but this is what our best research efforts have been able to uncover about the history of color film.

Pretty soon Fuji will likely be out of the market for film(other than instax) so hopefully that spot will open up to you. I'm quite happy with the 35mm p30 to be honest so colour would just be icing on the cake for me,

 

[Truzi]

If your 35mm finishing doesn't pan out, those of us with bulk-loaders might be able to help

 

[cmacd123]

As I've mentioned elsewhere before - in all of photographic history, there have only been 5 companies who manufacture color film from scratch. In historical order: Kodak, Agfa, Ferrania, Fuji and Svema (although, maybe Svema was before Fuji... Not clear on the precise dates.)

where did Konica, (Sakura) fit in there? their colour film had a far different Mask than any of the others that I had seen at the same time (I used a lot of Konica colour negative at one time in the 1980s as it was sold as private label film by everyone from Shoppers Drug Mart to Canadian Tire.