OK.Yes, it was quoted above, and is the source of the investment guesses in this thread.
It is an investment grant.Do you know whether the "public investment" is a grant or a loan?
... based on my personal opinion on a fact.
but it sounds like something around 1.8milon EUR has been invested in the area in which LRF is
Well Berri, you´re one of the best. You didn´t invest money but you complain for a pretty long time now and you´re just lying. Ferrania never took the money for color-film, but TO SAVE THE MACHINES. Once and for all. I know there´s a Donald Trump in power right now and since George W. Bush it´s "cool" to ignore facts, but come on man at least try to be fair. If you´re having a bad feeling then do it like Han Solo and say: "I´m having a bad feeling about this" - but please don´t lie. And, by the way, EVERONE here has noticed that you´re having a bad feeling about this - yes we all know that for sure now.
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I´m not angry at you, i´m sorry for you as you must have serious trouble in your life when all you can do here is paint things black and turn around facts - therefore i wish all the best for you and get well soon, honest man. God bless you. I really mean it, this is not an insult, ok?
Come back to the "honest side" of the force!
Really? I take it, then, you have never perused a copy of The New York Times, The Washington Post, or Canada's Globe and Mail. And, you have most certainly have never read an issue of The Economist. First-rate journalism, and first-rate writing in all.
What now? First you said:"Ferrania got money to make colour reversal film ant this is a fact" - now you say "it´s my personal opinion on a fact".
Is it a fact now that Ferrania got the money for color film or is it your opinion that Ferrania got they money for color film - and that´s a fact then? (Because Ferrania didn´t got the money to make color film - and that´s a "real" fact)
"Sorry you find my opinion annoyng."
So you don´t mean "fact" when you say "fact", you mean "my opinion" by saying "fact" - right? Or wrong?
You´re pretty creative on "facts" or "opinions" or both - and repeating ones opinion ("facts"?) over and over again can be quite annoying.
I think you are right. Although the specialty film might be more important. If there is a HUGE investment by the local regional state, you have to expect that they might have to work for nationally relevant projects, not just making colour film for us few. In the article is also made quite clear that the whole area is OWNED by the investors (aka the state) the article make it sound like the private company FERRANIA is working whithin a public technological estate and their work is directly financed by the regional state.If it now turns out to be true that they are busy making some new film for a research laboratory instead of working to make the color slide film, I think many backers will be quite upset and rightfully so.
The investment of 1.8 milions is not for building roads. It is to recover the whole technological estate of Val Bormida.They built a road, remember? And as roads can be pretty expensive it´s possible that the LRF didn´t got a cent of that money for their factory/film production.
in Italy you would be amazed to see how many companies show signs of activity...Alitalia for example, I lost track how many time it has been saved by the state,FIAT, ILVA, and even banks, for god's sake!..I could go on forever.It's impressive FILM Ferrania are still showing signs of activity.
...and a couple million eu of investment (counting the kickstarter founding):
http://www.savonanews.it/2017/02/15...nto-di-film-ferrania-un-piccolo-miracolo.html
They could make some sort of JV with some other european manufacturer and share risks and profits. Inoviscoat has the technology ready to coat CN film...
Your pre-sale was a wash? Was that for P30? I was under the impression that it went well...and you'll continue producing P30 to generate income....
It seems 1.5m + 300k from kickstarter? And then an investment of 1.8 for the renovation of the whole technology park. The article does not make it clear if the 300k is included in the 1.5m or not, but it says "complessivo" (overall), and by the (very bad) phrasing it could include or not the next sentence (the article is a good example of bad Italian).
Can you share with us the actual number of rolls of P30 delivered to customers?The sale went extremely well by nearly every measure - selling four months worth of production in just 5 days. But most of the film was sold to Backers at cost, and in the end, our actual logistical expenses were very slightly higher than the flat-rates we charged.
But the fact is that a financial wash is totally ok at this early stage. We didn't LOSE money and we proved, in some small way, that demand exists.
I was just making the point that the pre-sale didn't do anything to fund expansions or add to the coffers.
Dave, as I'm sure you know: 'Illegitimi non carborundum'
...some people get a little carried away with speculation when you don't!.
Your pre-sale was a wash? Was that for P30? I was under the impression that it went well...and you'll continue producing P30 to generate income....
Well, at least we would know something is happening in the coating areaWondering when the stories will begin insisting that International politicians are running a human trafficking ring in a back room in the coating area.
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