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Jan. 31st 2013 made from the new coating with less hardener in.
This is from the intermediate productions where we just started printing manufacturing dates on MCC paper.
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Can somebody tell me about production date of that one ?
...put into the box after changing the emulsions
I've never seen any change in MGIV and it frustrates me as I'd like to have a slight change such as Oriental papers... Slightly bluish. I otherwise really like Ilford's offerings.
You must have an extremely sharp eye to notice a change.
I found this to be an interesting discussion. A pity though that graded papers such as Ilford Galerie are overlooked these days.
There was no change in emulsion.
We added a tiny bit less hardener to the protective layer in order to pull even with our competition.
I've just received a package of MCC 112 and find no production date on the label. Has this now been incorporated into the emulsion number? For example, it says "1405030555/6/982." Does that mean it was made on the 50th day of 2014? Thanks in advance....The reason why we started printing the production date is because customers asked for it...
Does that mean it was made on the 50th day of 2014
I quite agree ! If you have negatives that match paper grades 2 and 3 ( thats what is available in Galerie ) and don't need to do split filter Printing , then ILFORD Galerie is the absolutely best paper on the market.
In the past I always said we could not make Forte Museum Graded again because of the small volume. This however is one of the things which have changed with the takeover of the medium sized coating machine from Ilford. So technical challenges in making the emulsion let aside from a coating standpoint this could now be possible.
In the past I always said we could not make Forte Museum Graded again because of the small volume. This however is one of the things which have changed with the takeover of the medium sized coating machine from Ilford. So technical challenges in making the emulsion let aside from a coating standpoint this could now be possible.
I've just received a package of MCC 112 and find no production date on the label. Has this now been incorporated into the emulsion number? For example, it says "1405030555/6/982." Does that mean it was made on the 50th day of 2014? Thanks in advance.
Thanks Mirko. I've attached a picture of the label to this post.No we do not use codes to make it complicated. The label should show PROD.:11/2014 on the upper right hand corner. If it does not I have no clue why. Must have been a printing error then. The production sheet was maintained corectly.
Mirko
I have prints made on the first production batch of MCC 110 (around 2010) and, when air dried, they exhibit substantially less surface gloss than those made in a late batch, i.e. last year. Is that a result of the hardener change, or are you at the mercy of what Schoeller supplies and the raw paper changed during that interval? If it's simply the hardener, I'd greatly prefer you go back to the greater hardener of your original MCC 110. I'd happily trade off some maximum contrast potential for a less shiny surface....Our competitors decided to harden their paper less which gives the paper a higher end grade. We decided to pull even on the last production. So if you compare the batches you shall see a higher contrast with high filter values (because the older batch has by now fully hardened and then the gradation comes down) but you should not see any other differences apart from the fact that now you cannot dry the paper on a hot press anymore without using hardener in the fixer...
Yes, thicker base please! Like the old Fortezo Museum. That would really set it apart from the competition...
I've attached a picture of the label to this post.
Impossible in Baryta. Only one manufacturer left, only one base left- that´s why we are all using the same. We could use inkjet base though. Foma does this with some of their papers but then you don´t have the true baryta white. Ofcourse one could first coat a baryta undercoat and then the emulsion.....but then it becomes a matter of price.
ILFORD used a Hahnemühle base with their Art paper. Fomabrom also seems to have a different base. It’s less cardboard like and not distractingly glossy.Impossible in Baryta. Only one manufacturer left, only one base left- that´s why we are all using the same. We could use inkjet base though. Foma does this with some of their papers but then you don´t have the true baryta white. Ofcourse one could first coat a baryta undercoat and then the emulsion.....but then it becomes a matter of price.
Schoeller as base manufacturer took a different view. They stated that it is not them not offering a variety of baryta bases, but the halide paper manufacturers not ordering such.
The point is that in the past manufacturers claimed that Schoeller made no or no reasonable offer...
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