IT'S NEVER OVER UNTIL WE SAY IT'S OVER!Swan never had a K-Lab. As far as I know, the last one in use was at Dwayne's Photo in Kansas. I don't keep track of the machines, but recall reading that most were scrapped. No reason to keep one, it seems, when the film disappeared. Although someone (in Oz?) did try processing the stuff, perhaps with a reconstituted one. Use the Google machine, with "sitehotrio.com" in its search field, to find out more. Knock yourself out! I only brought it up because someone finally "went there" about Kodachrome, and there didn't seem to be anything else worth commenting on in this "ultimate speculation" thread.
Harman's profits are relatively stable but are hardly large, and the profit margin on the B&W film products isn't high. They must be confident they can make back what they've invested in this new venture. It's not some super-niche product. It's going to be something Harman believe the majority of film photographers want to use.
they said they invested millions in production thanks to their profits in the last years: these profits may be "hardly large", but seem to be decent nonetheless...
@harmanphoto also now stated it's not a 'rerolled film from another company'.
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Harman's response is "good things come in small parcels"
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@harmanphoto also now stated it's not a 'rerolled film from another company'.
110? Anything in110…
126? Anything in 126…
I could use 110
If this is in fact a color film, something is better than nothing. I don't shoot 35mm, but I will be happy to see it, and will wait patiently to see if it comes to any larger formats.Slight update, on the Harman Photo Facebook page someone has expressed disappointment that this appears to be 35mm as they were hoping for 120 and sheet film.
Harman's response is "good things come in small parcels"
So this might be a clue that, for now at least, it's only 35mm film. Which makes commercial sense. That is where, by far, the biggest market is.
I really don't think it can be anything but colour film now, more than likely C41 but E6 is a possibility. The thing that puts me to C41 is that the gaps Kodak cannot fill reliably are Color Plus, Gold and Ultramax. The amateur C41 films, which are in such demand by the demographic this campaign is aimed at. Constant reminders, *this is not aimed at us*.
A 200 and/or 400 C41 film of decent quality would be the most likely way to recoup a large investment too. The influencers chosen to help market this all seem to be the kinds of photographers who shoot 35mm C41 film for the most part, with the occasional toe in the B&W water. If Harman can produce something of similar quality to Color Plus and sell it at the same price or a bit lower, then they're automatically onto a winner. They also have the distribution channels to get the stuff out there more efficiently than Kodak does. I could totally see myself stocking up on Harman C41 film at my local camera shop rather than going online for colour film, if the price is right.
Harman's profits are relatively stable but are hardly large, and the profit margin on the B&W film products isn't high. They must be confident they can make back what they've invested in this new venture. It's not some super-niche product. It's going to be something Harman believe the majority of film photographers want to use.
Seeing that you like ColorPlus 200 very much, Lomography Tiger 200 is your poison.
Anyway, I'm still quite puzzled by the obvious lack of @ilfordphoto activity on this. They don't follow @harmanphoto.
I mean, there was nothing stopping them from announcing the new product (range) on a channel with immensely bigger reach. As if they want this new film not to be associated with anything that Ilford stands for.
If this is in fact a color film, something is better than nothing. I don't shoot 35mm, but I will be happy to see it, and will wait patiently to see if it comes to any larger formats.
It looks very much like Ilford Photo cannot associate themselves with colour film or chemicals. So Harman Photo is hoping to achieve great reach by the dealers and influencers they've sent the product to publicising it for them.
I do occasionally use Tiger 110 film. It's not the same as Color Plus but it's decent enough for handing out with cameras at parties/celebrations. Yes, I like Color Plus. Shoot me.
Kodachrome in APS format ?!
It looks very much like Ilford Photo cannot associate themselves with colour film or chemicals. So Harman Photo is hoping to achieve great reach by the dealers and influencers they've sent the product to publicising it for them.
I thought this was a leg-pull, Matt, but have followed it up. I'm not clear: are these things already available, or are they part of what is to be launched shortly? And what about this:I think by this you are saying that Harman are not permitted by the terms of their license to use the name "Ilford" with respect to any business respecting colour film or colour chemicals or colour paper.
Which I agree with.
"Ilford Photo" is a trade name, not a legal name.
Ilford Imaging is the other entity - it is the one whose rights include the right to use "Ilford" with respect to colour products.
This is a screenshot of their website:
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