I also close my eyes when using a changing bag. Probably doesn’t help but certainly doesn’t hurt.
I put a cardboard box inside my changing bag. I have cut an opening in back of the box to pass supplies into the box from the Izipper side. Obviously, the front of the box needs to be open for my arms, but the box adds an additional layer of light protection on at least 4 sides. It also elevates the fabric away from the work area which makes the process more comfortable and less sweaty for me.
I don't quite trust the bag to be totally lightproof, so I turn off the room lights and cover the windows while using the changing bag. The room is not in total darkness, but dim. May or may not help, I don't know, but I can see what is going on inside the bag just as well with the lights off as I can with them on. ;-)
Inspired by this thread, I did just check my changing bag with a bright flashlight in a dark room (without the box), and no leaks! I can see light through the zipper, but there is a flap to cover the zipper, and that works. My bag is the Patterson brand bought from B&H almost exactly 4 years ago for about $30(US). It does not get used more often than about once per month, and I keep it inside a plastic garbage bag when not in use. But I think these things fail from age as much as wear, so I plan to check mine more often.
Thanks for the reminder.
I've never used a changing bag. Is there a foolproof version made? My hands would sweat.
Doesn’t the trash bag make your hands sweat?
Go get your changing bag (dark bag) and check for light leaks, now. This is prompted by two incidents, one just recently here at Photrio, and another about a year ago at the Large Format Photography Forum. I’ll be posting about this on both sites.
https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/strange-problem-with-my-developed-film.201108/
https://www.largeformatphotography....the-source-of-this-light-leak-on-my-negatives
In both cases, the changing bag was found to be grossly leaking light, but it took a long time, and considerable cost, to discover the primary issue. Like most people, I never considered changing bags to be a major problem, but in both these cases the changing bags were relatively new, so they were never suspected.
Testing your bag is very easy. You just need a bright flashlight to put inside your bag. With the room lights off at night, put your hands in the changing bag and turn on the flashlight. Move the flashlight around in the bag, and see if you can see any light coming through. Hopefully you don’t see any light coming through anywhere, but if you do, then those are leak points where light could come through to expose your film in unexpected ways.
It looks like changing bags have become very popular now with new film users, since you can develop film in a tank without needing a darkroom. With digital film scanning, this now becomes an attractive option for many people.
Over the decades I’ve collected several changing bags of varying size. I have one in my large format camera pack, to act as some camera padding, but also for emergency use if I need to load film holders in the field.
I decided today that I’d better check all my bags to see if they’re safe to use. The news was not good. The bag that I keep in my camera pack was leaking light at the zipper, and the material used in the sleeve sections was semi translucent. I found two other bags that were full of leaks and should never be used, but they looked fine cosmetically. I found a couple of bags that had a few pinhole leaks that could probably be O.K. in a darkened room, or could possibly be patched. Fortunately, I did find a few good ones, and I’ve put them in plastic zip-lock bags with the date tested. Age is not the primary consideration. Only one bag that I have has a manufacturer’s label. That one was a very large Burke and James bag that was still light tight. That one had to be as old, or older, than me.
One thing that I was shocked to discover is that only one of the layers is light tight. I thought the double layer bag was a safety measure to protect light leaks if one layer goes bad. This is NOT the case. In every single bag I checked, one of the layers is a very thin woven material that provides no light protection at all. I can see the whole flashlight through it. It’s about as effective at blocking light as a one stop neutral density filter. I couldn’t believe it, but that’s they way they’re all made.
Anyhoo, film is too expensive these days to be farting around with, so go check your changing bag.
Go get your changing bag (dark bag) and check for light leaks, now. This is prompted by two incidents, one just recently here at Photrio, and another about a year ago at the Large Format Photography Forum. I’ll be posting about this on both sites.
https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/strange-problem-with-my-developed-film.201108/
https://www.largeformatphotography....the-source-of-this-light-leak-on-my-negatives
In both cases, the changing bag was found to be grossly leaking light, but it took a long time, and considerable cost, to discover the primary issue. Like most people, I never considered changing bags to be a major problem, but in both these cases the changing bags were relatively new, so they were never suspected.
Testing your bag is very easy. You just need a bright flashlight to put inside your bag. With the room lights off at night, put your hands in the changing bag and turn on the flashlight. Move the flashlight around in the bag, and see if you can see any light coming through. Hopefully you don’t see any light coming through anywhere, but if you do, then those are leak points where light could come through to expose your film in unexpected ways.
It looks like changing bags have become very popular now with new film users, since you can develop film in a tank without needing a darkroom. With digital film scanning, this now becomes an attractive option for many people.
Over the decades I’ve collected several changing bags of varying size. I have one in my large format camera pack, to act as some camera padding, but also for emergency use if I need to load film holders in the field.
I decided today that I’d better check all my bags to see if they’re safe to use. The news was not good. The bag that I keep in my camera pack was leaking light at the zipper, and the material used in the sleeve sections was semi translucent. I found two other bags that were full of leaks and should never be used, but they looked fine cosmetically. I found a couple of bags that had a few pinhole leaks that could probably be O.K. in a darkened room, or could possibly be patched. Fortunately, I did find a few good ones, and I’ve put them in plastic zip-lock bags with the date tested. Age is not the primary consideration. Only one bag that I have has a manufacturer’s label. That one was a very large Burke and James bag that was still light tight. That one had to be as old, or older, than me.
One thing that I was shocked to discover is that only one of the layers is light tight. I thought the double layer bag was a safety measure to protect light leaks if one layer goes bad. This is NOT the case. In every single bag I checked, one of the layers is a very thin woven material that provides no light protection at all. I can see the whole flashlight through it. It’s about as effective at blocking light as a one stop neutral density filter. I couldn’t believe it, but that’s they way they’re all made.
Anyhoo, film is too expensive these days to be farting around with, so go check your changing bag.
I think a changing tent works better than a bag although like them all it can be sweaty on a hot day. But like this one marketed by Calumet you can stand a Paterson tank upright in it, have all your reels and scissors and film arranged inside where you can easily feel for them, and it's less likely to harbour dust.
https://www.wexphotovideo.com/calumet-film-changing-room-bag-1629684/
I avoid small bags for that reason. I use the larger "Changing Room" to avoid that problem. https://www.freestylephoto.com/25001-Photoflex-Changing-Room
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I'm on my 3rd film-changing bag: Original was something that my dad had purchased years previously, and I marveled at how long it had lasted, at least until it failed. Then there was the not-cheap Photoflex Changing Room that I purchased new but ended up discarding a few years ago, because the light-proof coating had become crumbly. Too bad, because the rest of it looked tip-top. In both cases, it was impossible not to notice that something was amiss, because the bags were filled with "crumbs".
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