Gallery photos: size limit, and should we allow AI content?

[koraks]

Strange debate, rather like a poetry forum deciding to allow novels because novelists also use words.

I think the fundamental difference in the tools or materials used is exactly part of the issue in this thread, making the parallel as you propose it kind of unfortunate in my view. Besides, as I've argued several times over the course of this thread: the scope of a forum is inherently fluid, but we can decide on the boundaries within which we allow it to meander. For now we have decided that AI-related discussion is allowed in a specific place and no AI-generated imagery in the main gallery.

 

[perkeleellinen]

That seems like the best approach. A skateboard forum I'm part of has forums for tattoos and punk rock which are not necessarily components in the art of skateboarding. But they're easy enough to ignore.

Interesting the debates around the boundaries. I'd like a specific place here for etching which is a chemical process with an output onto paper, I think it is much closer to darkroom printing than artificial intelligence.

 

[Ardpatrick]

@Ardpatrick I frankly don't understand the antagonistic approach you take here, and at a personal level as well as in my capacity as a moderator I do not appreciate it.

It’s the internet - it makes things sound antagonistic. It’s nothing personal - I greatly appreciate your input on many things and I’ve expressed that previously.

But you seem to want a discussion, but not want it at the same time. Set up any sub forum you like, but if you want to open a discussion on AI, don’t patronise contributions you don’t agree with. I’ve pointed out clear evidence of you doing just that.again it’s nothing personal even if it sounds like that. It’s a trope as I said (fear of change etc) a cultural tendency We’ve all seen before. It’s unnecessary.

 

[koraks]

@perkeleellinen Oh, etching is lovely! Definitely feel free to post about it. If it involves Photographic exposure, the subforum about Alternative Printing is the most appropriate place. If it's not a Photographic process, maybe for now we'll have to go with the Lounge, but perhaps we can make a better place for it in the future.

 

[TheFlyingCamera]

That seems like the best approach. A skateboard forum I'm part of has forums for tattoos and punk rock which are not necessarily components in the art of skateboarding. But they're easy enough to ignore.

Interesting the debates around the boundaries. I'd like a specific place here for etching which is a chemical process with an output onto paper, I think it is much closer to darkroom printing than artificial intelligence.

I'm in the middle of planning the next iteration of my Foto Inter/Cambio conference in Mexico City. The core content is devoted to large format and historic processes. But we are planning on having a session devoted to AI artists - we will be presenting artists using AI in an ethical manner and discussing how they came to use it, and what place it has in their artistic practice. If we continue to stick our heads in the sand and pretend AI doesn't exist, or worse, refuse to engage with it in meaningful dialogue, we will have no role in shaping how it evolves and we will be blindsided by it when we can't recognize it.

 

[MattKing]

Strange debate, rather like a poetry forum deciding to allow novels because novelists also use words.

I think a better analogy would be a poetry forum deciding to allow song lyrics.
This observation may be fueled at least partially by the fact that I am currently reading Leonard Cohen: "The Flame - Poems and Selections From Notebooks".
This entire discussion would make a nice bookend along with this diametrically opposite thread: https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/enlarging-small-sections-to-large-sizes.217568/#post-2955442