Gallery photos: size limit, and should we allow AI content?

[0x001688936CA08]

... think very carefully about buying into the "maximize engagement" philosophy. This approach has done immense damage to society, IMO. Ultimately, I believe that the inclusion of AI imagery as a legitimate form of photography will only dilute the Photrio brand.

Indeed.

Just imagine — there are going to be people coming to Photrio because they love Ansel Adams photographs, and they will generate scores of AI generated images that emulate "Monolith, the Face of Half Dome" or the famous Yosemite Valley photo from 1935. You think real photographers are going to embrace that? I'm betting not.

Here's my next submission, titled "My Monolith. My expert print of Half Dome".

Please read my artist's journal for a behind the scenes peak at my process:

I imaged myself hiking up to the vantage point, carrying my 20x24 view camera. I imagined that Ilford made me some ULF Delta film just for me, but I imagined that it was ISO 3200 with the grain of Pan F+.

I imagined myself waiting all day for the perfect break in the clouds, because I imagine I'm a dedicated person who cares deeply about the decisive moment. I stopped down my Copal 4 to f/128, because I imagined diffraction is not a thing, and I wanted extreme depth of field with my massive imaginary 2400mm lens. I imagine that I applied the zone system perfectly. I imagined going back to my studio, where I processed the single sheet with intense focus. I imagined the development was absolutely perfectly even, so perfect that I had the best score for my inevitably perfect performance to follow.

I imagined making a contact print on a new kind of fibre paper that does not require any stop or fixer, because I imagined that I don't want to bother with it. My print speaks to craftsmanship and perseverance, and the beauty of our natural landscape. I'm also an environmentalist, so I like that this image did not require mining of silver or any chemistry, only a massive data centre and a huge power station (and I suppose rare metals for computer hardware, but whatever).

Please understand that I achieved this without having to "previsualize" anything whatsoever, as Ansel Adams had to, which I consider a huge milestone in photography.

 

[MurrayMinchin]

Indeed.



Here's my next submission, titled "My Monolith. My expert print of Half Dome".

Please read my artist's journal for a behind the scenes peak at my process:



Please understand that I achieved this without having to "previsualize" anything whatsoever, as Ansel Adams had to, which I consider a huge milestone in photography.

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I saw lint in the skies of Ansel's prints...why don't you put some in yours to be more realistic? Also, what a lovely scene for some Dragon's if you don't mind adding them next time?

 

[jeffreyg]

While I know you are not claiming your monolith image to be an actual photograph it is amazing that someone can sit back in a comfortable chair and tap on a keyboard and possibly move some sliders and come up with an image such as that. There are some issues where the mountains and Half Dome meet the sky and I would open the shadows a bit but that can probably be addressed by an expert.
My guess if AA was still here and photographing he would be dabbling with digital if not going all digital.
As I mentioned before my granddaughter who never took a film photo used her phone camera and some kind of Ai to make a funny video.
While many won’t adapt it to serious photography it won’t go away and some form of inclusion on Photrio will be of interest to those who curious.

 

[Alan Edward Klein]

I don’t think I’d stay if the doors were opened to AI-generated imagery. I wouldn’t stomp off in a huff or anything, but I’m interested in photography and not interested in AI image generation.

My feeling is that there are plenty of venues already for distribution of AI content, and indeed a whole gigantic wing of the tech industries devot.

Isn’t a photo site something that is found on a digital image sensor?

I get your point, but the devil is in the details and definitions.

I was referring to a photo forum site like this one that is about capturing images of the real world not created by the mind of a computer.

 

[Alan Edward Klein]

Indeed.



Here's my next submission, titled "My Monolith. My expert print of Half Dome".

Please read my artist's journal for a behind the scenes peak at my process:



Please understand that I achieved this without having to "previsualize" anything whatsoever, as Ansel Adams had to, which I consider a huge milestone in photography.

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Computer created images like this is going to destroy photography. Why bother getting out of bed?

 

[Chuck1]

Indeed

 

[jeffreyg]

Computer created images like this is going to destroy photography. Why bother getting out of bed?

I respectfully disagree. I think it will introduce more people to photography and many might explore more traditional and challenging forms of the craft. After years of printing on graded papers I tried multigraded papers and after seeing some actual platinum/palladium prints I started doing mostly that medium.
At my age I am happy to get out of bed every day and even happier to be able to do some photography and sculpture. I have also been making some hand made books of my photographs. New challenges keep me motivated.

 

[MattKing]

It was the best of times.
It was the worst of times.
I have friends who are creative and talented photographers - in a few cases in both the film based world and the digital based world.
Some of them have been playing/experimenting with many of the visually related AI tools, along with other, non-visual AI tools.
The results have at least sometimes been intriguing and compelling.
I'm glad that there are an ever-expanding group of options for those who wish to be creative.
As long as Photrio works well for those who wish to both focus their interests and to avoid certain of those options while spending time here, I'm happy.

 

[0x001688936CA08]

While I know you are not claiming your monolith image to be an actual photograph it is amazing that someone can sit back in a comfortable chair and tap on a keyboard and possibly move some sliders and come up with an image such as that. There are some issues where the mountains and Half Dome meet the sky and I would open the shadows a bit but that can probably be addressed by an expert.
My guess if AA was still here and photographing he would be dabbling with digital if not going all digital.
As I mentioned before my granddaughter who never took a film photo used her phone camera and some kind of Ai to make a funny video.
While many won’t adapt it to serious photography it won’t go away and some form of inclusion on Photrio will be of interest to those who curious.

The prompt was:
Give me an Ansel Adams picture based on the title "Monolith, the Face of Half Dome" but make it ultra super awesome

And I then applied maximum JPEG compression as my personal creative flair to really make it my own.

I'm not sure what value my silly AI image has, if any. Do you have any ideas?

 

[ezphotolessons]

Computer created images like this is going to destroy photography. Why bother getting out of bed?

THIS is where you are 1,000,000 percent wrong. AI images will make authentic-photographs, no-matter-how -they-were-created worth gold.
It is like that movie "The Book of Eli". In a world where nothing is real, real-is-real.
Its the same reason the owner of Hobby Lobby bought The Dream Stone.

 

[Taylor Nankervis]

Computer created images like this is going to destroy photography. Why bother getting out of bed?

+100

 

[retina_restoration]

Don’t feed the trolls.

 

[gbroadbridge]

I'm not sure what value my silly AI image has, if any. Do you have any ideas?

It's worth exactly what someone is prepared to pay for it, just like an AA photo.

 

[jeffreyg]

I’m sure you are more computer literate than me. I am pretty decent with Photoshop but I doubt that my operating system will work with the recent Ai features I think your image introduces us to aspects of Ai creating images that include places or elements that would otherwise not be available to us. It’s just another tool. Another technology that will change the way we live in many ways including art. While I still mostly use film (120) as well as a 4x5 pinhole and 4x5 view camera, dsl and digital point and shoot that fits in a pocket and has 400 page pdf of instructions. So many choices so little time.

 

[MurrayMinchin]

It's a head scratcher for me...like claiming to having done a Marathon by driving the course in your car.

No sense of accomplishment. No sense of pride.