Fujifilm Announces Temporary Unavailability of Color Neg/Reversal Films in Japan in 135 and 120

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Alan Edward Klein said:
you should not have
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Alan Edward Klein said:
You just don't want
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I can decide just fine for myself what I should or shouldn't, and what I do or don't want. You're simply not in a position to fill this in for anyone but yourself.

One of the things I certainly don't want is to perpetuate this conversation with you on the terms you impose on it, which make it more akin to a cross examination and forces one party to do mental gymnastics while the other can lazily and stubbornly sit by. A conversation requires a basic willingness on both parties to evaluate information being exchanged. Time and again I note that any signs of such willingness are lacking in conversations with you.
 

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Alan Edward Klein said:
You didn't answer my question to your claim they weren't transparent. What should they have said to be more transparent?
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I would say that quote was not transparent at all. Raw materials? What does that mean? There is no transparency in that alone as it is plain too easy to blame suppliers for whatever the actual reason of hold up is. Nobody can affirm they made a true statement. Sure, we can hope they are transparent, but Fuji is only going to do what they decide, without giving any meaningful explanation.

I used to like Fuji, I even liked their X100T (still own it), but I simply look forward to future times when film market will get hot again and Fuji will have s=to scramble to attract customers (as is, looks like whatever they offer will sell for any price, whatever is available).

All we can do is sit on their "issues" and await their official "resolution", as they sit on announcing their next move. Cynic in me says so.
 

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I'm more upset about Fuji than you because they already stopped Velvia 50 in 4x5 permanently, my favorite color film. And I just recently started LF photography. And I've used Velvia 50 in 120 for my medium format photos for decades.

But other than adding, "No, we are not secretly planning to stop production totally." to their statement, it's pretty complete just as it is. OF course, we don't have to believe it as it is. But I don't see what they could have said to convince you otherwise.
 

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All I said was that saying "raw material issues" in itself has no conclusive meaning, nobody can confirm it, and it may or may not be true. Reason for me saying they were not transparent at all, just making a public statement as surely there was some reason to put things on hold, so to address concerns, this is why.
 

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Time for one of these
 

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Whatever the outcome at a practical level it seems to have pretty much cleared all existing fujifilm dealer inventory of provia and velvia in the UK, and superia and acros stocks are low, Looking at yodobashi in japan as a representative it seems they are out of all lines all except acros and some fujifilm LF stock.
 

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Someone started a thread about Kodak Alaris film division being sold (potentially). The plot thickens.

Kodak Alaris for sale Again April 17 2023

https://petapixel.com/2023/04/17/the-main-kodak-film-business-is-up-for-sale-again/
www.photrio.com
 

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Agulliver said:
The plot doesn't thicken.

People just like stirring it. Presumably they think it's fun.
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The purpose is to keep old farts like us tied to computers and off the streets! The concept it to make streets and roads all over the world safer.
 

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A couple of the stores I buy from from now have Fuji Velvia 50 and Provia 100 back in stock in 35 and 120
 

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Around here (Utah, US), Provia and Velvia in 35 and 120 if anything got more available around the time of this announcement. I dropped some film off at my usual lab yesterday, and they had restocked plenty of 35mm Provia since I was in a few weeks ago (they don't stock 120 Provia). Also I was happy to note that they had an absolute glut of all three Portras, in 35mm, 120, and 4x5 (minus 800 in 4x5, of course).
 

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Interesting, it's possible my local stores (well ok one is in Toronto and not local at all) were hit by a run of sales due to the announcement and have just restocked.
 

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That would be pretty steep. Surely it can't apply to Velvia as it would then cost something like 50-60 dollarmathingies per roll, lol!
 

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Sirius Glass said:
Is the time to panic now? 88% is a large jump but on which product(s)?
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That's the question. My local store seems to have all fuji products in stock and all at historically normal pricing.

Edit: actually they don't have Velvia 100 in 120 listed, just 35mm (this is in Canada)
 

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This is all in-country pricing. The yen has tanked against the dollar, so all dollar-denominated imports of raw materials are around 35% more expensive than a couple of years ago, even excluding the current supply chain issues.
 
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