Forte Polywarmtone

[palec]

Fortezo or PWT, I'm in. Can I place my preorder now?

 

[Guillaume Zuili]

Out of subject but...
Could you think of making a POP paper ?
That would be fantastic !

Guillaume

 

[alt photophile]

Forte Polywarmtone FB semi-matt was my absolute favorite paper and it breaks my heart that it is gone. If you could produce it now it would be a dream come true. The semi-matt surface was perfect and I really like the warm tone I got in LPD. Please let us know your decision.

 

[Justin Maramba]

Polywarmtone would be amazing to have, since most of the lith stuff I've seen from it is amazing. On an unrelated note, AGFA Portriga paper would also be great.

 

[billy]

interesting photo from Japan re:Argentone

I found a photo (number 18 out of 40, or "jp08_1740") showing an analog shop in japan displaying what looks to be labelled as "Argentone" print paper under the Forte banner!

http://www.photoness.de/yodo_analog/

i'm still trying to get info on this Argentone paper and if it in fact has the Forte connection my paper dealer claims. ie. that ex Forte employees are behind Argentone and are using Forte formulas to produce Forte-like papers under the Argentone name. Anyone know more about Argentone?

 

[ath]

I guess it is a good idea to start a seperate thread for Argentone.

This is the ADOX section of APUG and a thread about future demand of Polywarmtone.

 

[Andrew Moxom]

Mirko, I know this all 'tentative' at the moment and all based upon how high a high demand for this paper. That said, if this can be done, what time frame are we talking about. I'm not trying to rock the boat, or detract from the opportunity that remaking PWT might become, but the MCCIII reintroduction took a similar path, and we still don't have it available for sale yet even after almost two years of waiting.

 

[billy]

polywarmtone

ath...the main gist of this thread is about the possible return of Forte Papers, Polywarmtone paper included, as you mentioned. my post was about that very possibility. it would seem to me to make sense that i post my questions about Argentone here, as my understanding is that they are producing their own version of a warmtone paper based on the same process as Forte, including the Polywarmtone paper. Isn't the return of that paper (and other Forte papers) what everyone in this post is asking for? posting another thread on Argentone doesn't make sense to me here. i apologize if you may be feeling that i am raining on another manufacturers parade here, but for me it's all about getting the Forte papers back, period. if my source is wrong about the Argentone/Forte connection, perhaps someone familiar with the Forte papers would be reading this post and could clear this up..billy

 

[ADOX Fotoimpex]

Polywarmtone presale project launched

thank you all for your encouraging support.
Now we are going to test you a bit more ;-)

We launched a new website www.polywarmton.com were you can read more about the project and register to commit to the purchase of paper.
If we receive enough commitments we will start remanufacturing the paper.
If we succeed we ask you to pay based on your commitment after the paper is ready for shippment (and will ship, ofcourse).

If we fail nothing happens for you other than that no Polywarmtone will be available.
I also opened a new thread for this project to post questions:
(there was a url link here which no longer exists)

Best regards,

Mirko

 

[Solarize]

Mirko,

I've just gone through the site to register my interest in the project. There are no 9.5 x 12 inch boxes listed in the menu. Is there a chance that the paper could be sold in that size too?

Thanks,
Ciaran

 

[ADOX Fotoimpex]

Argentone

Argentone is a new brand set up by our friends from the former commercial departement of Forte.
They have selected some very fine papers for their range. However these papers are not made in Hungary and they are not based on Fortes original technology.

I hope this helps clearing some mist.

Best regards,

Mirko

 

[ADOX Fotoimpex]

Solarize,

the metric formats are listed on the German registration site.

Did not think this would cause any trouble ;-)

Will change.

Best regards,

Mirko

 

[Jim Chinn]

I bought quite a bit of polywarmtone back in the day due to its pricing and characteristics. However I thnk I would still be in the market even if it was priced comparable to Ilford WT.

 

[Solarize]

Solarize,

the metric formats are listed on the German registration site.

Did not think this would cause any trouble ;-)

Will change.

Best regards,

Mirko

Thanks Mirko,

Placed an order and wait with optimism

Ciaran

 

[robindreyer]

Yes, please

I love that paper and have been pondering exactly what to do with my last 100 sheets. If all you decide to make is MCC, I'll be using that, but the combination of true warmtones on a bright white base has not, as far as I know, been replicated. I will buy.

thanks,

Robin

 

[RPippin]

Count me in. I do a lot of Lith printing and used the last three packs I could find this past winter. Would love to get more. Put me down for at least 100 sheets of 11X14 to start.

 

[ath]

Robin, Variotone is a true warmtone paper on a bright white base but quite different to Polywarmtone.

 

[aldevo]

Yes, Polywarmtone is great stuff.

I only discovered the paper near the end of Forte's life, and I was heartsick when production ceased.

I have committed to several 8x10 boxes.

 

[clayne]

Really want Polywarmtone back. :-(

 

[Vlad Soare]

Question 1: Does anyone out there want Polywarmtone back ?

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes! YESSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!

Question 1a: If yes will you still buy it if it is sold at about the price of Variotone ?

Definitely. If Polywarmtone came back to life I would never buy any other paper. Polywarmtone is all I need.

Why am I asking when with MCC we will have a perfect neutral- to warm-tone paper and with Variotone we have a brilliant warmtone enlarging paper ?

Because Variotone is not Polywarmtone. It's a nice paper, but it's not as responsive to toners and to different developers and developing techniques as Polywarmtone was. I'm sure an experienced printer can make Variotone look any way he wants it to, but just about any printer could to that with Polywarmtone with a lot less effort.

 

[Mark Fisher]

Any new news? I was just desperately trying to print an image I originally did as a polywarmtone lith print on Fomatone and failed miserably. Please bring it back! I like Fomatone, but it isn't the same!

 

[Ian Grant]

I'm down to my last 150 sheets, so looking forward to the revival as it's such a great paper. So like Mark await the news.

Ian

 

[swittmann]

Fortezo (fixed grade) and Polywarmtone use the same technology and can both be made from the raw emulsion made in the replicator.
So if there is demand for more than 10.000 sqm per year/grade we can also add the fixed grade version. But all of them together (PW and graded versions) have to justify the moove.
It´s economics now. Nothing else. We currently consider a raise of sales leads similar to what Michael and Paula have done for their Lodima paper.

Kind regards,

Mirko

Mirko, I'd also be *very* interested in the graded version. It has always been my favourite paper. Do you see some chance to manufacture it again, along with the PWT? I am running out of my last sheets... *fleh an*

Viele Grüße
Sandra

 

[topoxforddoc]

Mirko,

It will be a memorable day when PWT comes back. Great paper (my favourite warmtone paper) and it was very sad when it disappeared. How is the PWT project going? There's been no update on the PWT Project blog for a few months, since the transfer of the kettle. I've ordered quite a bit and would like to know how long I need to eke out my remaining supplies.

Best wishes,

Charlie
www.charlie-chan.co.uk

 

[Adrian Twiss]

I would certainly be interested in Polywarmtone in 12x16. In fibre base it was one of the nicest papers I used. I was equally fond of Polygrade cold tone paper. Any chance of that paper making a comeback. There seems to be a dearth of true cold tone VC papers out there.