The impossible example is a bad one.
The reason that the company couldn't immediately make a really good polaroid film was because the old chemists were brought in to work on the new films however they were not allowed to use the same processes as they use with Polaroid because of licensing and patents... If they were allowed to use the same exact process as Polaroid, they would have the same exact stuff Polaroid film today, it's the patents that are owned by someone else that they can't easily procure, it's not financially feasible to buy them, thats preventing them from having the older Polaroid films in stock
Thought I agree the machines kodak use probably have as much to do with quality as the chemistry behind the emulsions.
Then again ilford can easily coat the Rollie IR films... So...
The impossible example is a bad one.
The reason that the company couldn't immediately make a really good polaroid film was because the old chemists were brought in to work on the new films however they were not allowed to use the same processes as they use with Polaroid because of licensing and patents... If they were allowed to use the same exact process as Polaroid, they would have the same exact stuff Polaroid film today, it's the patents that are owned by someone else that they can't easily procure, it's not financially feasible to buy them, thats preventing them from having the older Polaroid films in stock
Thought I agree the machines kodak use probably have as much to do with quality as the chemistry behind the emulsions.
Then again ilford can easily coat the Rollie IR films... So...
And that is why it is so amazing on how fast Impossible has been able to create a decent colour film. Polaroid took about 20 years or so to get decent color in their pictures.
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Polaroid stopped making chemicals in 2005. The factories that produced them have long since been demolished. Some key chemicals are illegal today and Impossible is not allowed to use them. Even with the patens and recipies they have to start from scratch because every component reacts differently to another. Change one of them and you have to start all over testing and making it right. If you have to change half a dozen......also the negative materials were made by Polaroid and in the beginning by Kodak. The stuff is not being made anymore so a new vendor and therefor new negative materials were needed. That has also a different reaction to the chemicals etc....do you get the picture? It is not as easy to get the right recipy it is a lot more than that. And that is why it is so amazing on how fast Impossible has been able to create a decent colour film. Polaroid took about 20 years or so to get decent color in their pictures.
Anyways when Ferania starts producing I will start buying.
I thought the Rollei IR films are Agfa product?
Tom
Laws should be changed to declare a patent abandoned once the owner is no longer using it.
One has to wonder who, if anyone at all, owns the Polaroid patents.
The other side of patent protection is one has to defend the patent. So if Impossible were to use Polaroid's patents, whoever holds the rights would have to be willing and financially able to pursue infringement in the courts.
And, there's always the chance the courts would side with Impossible.
But still there needs to be an abandonment clause.
Cosina made a lotta SLRs for other companies...
But are Agfa coating any film today?
My last batch of APX100 did not say 'made in Ge'... previous batch did say 'made in Ge'...
Well I saw a post here recently that said that this person knew that ilford was actually doing the IR stuff in 120 rolls at least... And if you look at the backing paper of PanF+ and compare it to RollieIR400 it's the EXACT same paper.
But are Agfa coating any film today?
You have to difer between emuksin making/coating and converting.
I don't see Ferrania having any more sales than Kodak or Fuji today. The market for E6 is vanishing. Maybe that will be enough for them for a while.
Ferrania is primarily targeting motion picture film audience. There has been a noticiable gap since Kodak stopped producing E-6 film, since many super-8 shooters lost their color reversal film option. There is still quite a big market for that, even if not big enough for Kodak to coat E-6. After all, Ferrania can coat film in smaller quantities so it doesn't have the same problem as Kodak had.
...not to mention that Ferrania is like an icon for the hope of color film in the future. Many are going to buy from them just because of that.
Kodak's current situation and Ferrania's current situation could not be further apart. Kodak is no longer primarily even a film manufacturer. That's why they dumped their film business as part of the settlement. It was no longer critical path for them going forward in the long term.
Kodak wants out. Ferrania wants in.
Ken
Kodak's current situation and Ferrania's current situation could not be further apart. Kodak is no longer primarily even a film manufacturer. That's why they dumped their film business as part of the settlement. It was no longer critical path for them going forward in the long term.
Kodak wants out. Ferrania wants in.
Ken
Apparently there's a lot about this you don't know. Researching relevant threads in the archive here would reveal a lot....IDK...
Offering advice from a basis of "not knowing" is perilous....should...
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