Film from Italy -- Ferrania starting production 2014

Ken Nadvornick · Aug 11, 2014

The smile on my face could not be bigger right now. Life (color) after Kodak? And Fujifilm?

Maybe so after all...

Here is the Dead Link Removed to the above mentioned FAQ. Currently only those three entries.

And here is a Dead Link Removed to a video they have added.

Ken

StoneNYC · Aug 11, 2014

Trail Images · Aug 11, 2014

Looking forward to seeing the list of released products when it's published.

ME Super · Aug 11, 2014

Yes! Looks like color film will have a bit of a reprieve after all.

wblynch · Aug 11, 2014

I am happy and willing to bet a case of beer that Film Ferrania's first major customer will be Kodak Alaris.

AgX · Aug 11, 2014

There is thus commitment for this technology by the regional government not seen at other places.

ME Super · Aug 11, 2014

wblynch said:
I am happy and willing to bet a case of beer that Film Ferrania's first major customer will be Kodak Alaris.

Heh. Maybe KA will dub the E-6 emulsion "Ektachrome." Or "New Ektachrome." As long as they make a color reversal film, I'm good. 200 or 400 speed would be nice, since Fuji only makes ISO 50 and 100 in reversal films now, and EK makes none at all.

Dr Croubie · Aug 11, 2014

ME Super said:
Heh. Maybe KA will dub the E-6 emulsion "Ektachrome." Or "New Ektachrome." As long as they make a color reversal film, I'm good. 200 or 400 speed would be nice, since Fuji only makes ISO 50 and 100 in reversal films now, and EK makes none at all.

How about EktITchrome? Or FEktrachrome?

Whatever they call the C41 I'll buy some anyway.

Nzoomed · Aug 11, 2014

Interesting about the extra pieces of machinery needed for the new plant. I expect this includes coating machines etc. Although when i bought this subject up here earlier, my replys appeared to suggest that alot of that equipment was scrapped, as the only facility left was supposed to be the small research lab that they had planned to start production with.
This may prompt kodak to restart production again of ektachrome if they see that film is starting to have a unique niche market.

StoneNYC · Aug 12, 2014

Nzoomed said:
Interesting about the extra pieces of machinery needed for the new plant. I expect this includes coating machines etc. Although when i bought this subject up here earlier, my replys appeared to suggest that alot of that equipment was scrapped, as the only facility left was supposed to be the small research lab that they had planned to start production with.
This may prompt kodak to restart production again of ektachrome if they see that film is starting to have a unique niche market.

No... It won't... They just stopped making their E-6 chemicals too, they are DONE with E-6

Let's just support FILM Ferania with their film that they make. If we are lucky they can buy the old ektachrome patents but really the Fuji scans way better and since we can only scan now.... Buying Velvia50/100 and Provia100f patents after that shuts down would be my best hope...

MattKing · Aug 12, 2014

Their initial focus was reversal cine film. So if they decide to do something with Kodak, that would be the most likely product.

As the new Jeep is going to be a made in Italy affair, maybe we will see Chrysler in the film market too!

Ricardo Miranda · Aug 12, 2014

Grazie Nicola! Forza Ferrania!

Xmas · Aug 12, 2014

StoneNYC said:
No... It won't... They just stopped making their E-6 chemicals too, they are DONE with E-6

Let's just support FILM Ferania with their film that they make. If we are lucky they can buy the old ektachrome patents but really the Fuji scans way better and since we can only scan now.... Buying Velvia50/100 and Provia100f patents after that shuts down would be my best hope...

A patent describes a product or process but it won't help you to recreate a product a patent is written to stop a competitor it was not something you gave to your own production manager.

A manufacturing document for one factory would not work in a different factory unless all the same machines were the same. Harrow UK would have had different documents from Rochester USA for making the same film.

You can mix up E6 chemicals with a 50USD micro scale if you can get the raw chemicals in post.

In London I can get a taxi or local bus to a E6 lab today next year they may close and Id need to post.

A month ago the local C41 lab moved now I don't have a local lab open on Sunday.

I have processed E6 and C41 still but not cine.

Impossible has flourished here you can buy a pack on Sunday locally. It is impossible to tell how many cameras are in use cause most users I see are ladies with large sling bags and they conceal cameras when not in use. You only see them loading, shooting or looking at a print, analogue chimping.

RattyMouse · Aug 12, 2014

Ricardo Miranda said:
Grazie Nicola! Forza Ferrania!

Yes, Forza Ferrania!

andreabg · Aug 12, 2014

RattyMouse said:
Yes, Forza Ferrania!

Great Ferrania!!!!

Ready to shoot Ferrania Film.

Andrea

Roger Cole · Aug 12, 2014

StoneNYC said:
No... It won't... They just stopped making their E-6 chemicals too, they are DONE with E-6

Let's just support FILM Ferania with their film that they make. If we are lucky they can buy the old ektachrome patents but really the Fuji scans way better and since we can only scan now.... Buying Velvia50/100 and Provia100f patents after that shuts down would be my best hope...

We can only scan now?

Well not really. It's the easiest way to print but you CAN still do this via internegatives and don't forget those of us who shoot slides for projection.

madgardener · Aug 12, 2014

I wonder what the chances of Freestyle selling an Arista brand of C-41 again are. As for KA, the only film I purchase from them anymore is the Ektar 100, it's a very special film and I love the look of it.

StoneNYC · Aug 12, 2014

Roger Cole said:
We can only scan now?

Well not really. It's the easiest way to print but you CAN still do this via internegatives and don't forget those of us who shoot slides for projection.

The only two people who actually claim they can do internegs for me successfully one has died, the other is Drew Wiley... And Drew won't do them, my college professors when I mentioned the process they kind of looked at me and said "why would you bother with all those errors when you can scan them and the archival quality would be better with the scanned print?" Lol

People talk a lot about doing things like internegs, but no one actually does them... And probably for a reason...

ME Super · Aug 12, 2014

StoneNYC said:
since we can only scan now....

What? When did the laws of physics on planet Earth change so that my projector no longer works? Last time I projected a slide, it projected just fine! And if projection no longer works, then there's no way to do analog enlargements from negatives either. Oh the horror!

Okay, sarcasm aside, here. Before scanning was invented, we could view slides by holding them up to the light, viewing them on a lightbox, or projecting them - sometimes bigger than life. All of these methods for viewing slides still work. We don't have to scan them in order to view them. As far as printing goes, for me at least, the method we do not speak of on APUG works just fine.

Photo Engineer · Aug 12, 2014

I made internegatives regularly until I got involved in the emulsion work. It is no problem really, to turn out a good interngeg. The problem is that there is no interneg film made anymore and so you have to use Portra 160 to do the job. It is OK, but gives some errors in the toe and shoulder region that a real interneg film would fix. I've posted the entire sequence here on APUG several times, so if you are interested, look them up!

PE

StoneNYC · Aug 12, 2014

ME Super said:
What? When did the laws of physics on planet Earth change so that my projector no longer works? Last time I projected a slide, it projected just fine! And if projection no longer works, then there's no way to do analog enlargements from negatives either. Oh the horror!

Okay, sarcasm aside, here. Before scanning was invented, we could view slides by holding them up to the light, viewing them on a lightbox, or projecting them - sometimes bigger than life. All of these methods for viewing slides still work. We don't have to scan them in order to view them. As far as printing goes, for me at least, the method we do not speak of on APUG works just fine.

Ok send me your 8x10 projector and I'll use that.... *facepalm*

Photo Engineer said:
I made internegatives regularly until I got involved in the emulsion work. It is no problem really, to turn out a good interngeg. The problem is that there is no interneg film made anymore and so you have to use Portra 160 to do the job. It is OK, but gives some errors in the toe and shoulder region that a real interneg film would fix. I've posted the entire sequence here on APUG several times, so if you are interested, look them up!

PE

Thanks PE when the time comes to do it in school I will.

Nzoomed · Aug 12, 2014

Whats wrong with scanning them anyway? I reckon its the only way to go, the colour reproduction seems perfect on all my scans...

ME Super · Aug 12, 2014

Overhead projectors can do 8x10 no problem. Or build a projector from an 8x10 camera. It can be done. There's also the lightbox option - 8x10 on a lightbox is still 8x10, much easier to view on a lightbox without a loupe than a 35mm slide.

pdeeh · Aug 12, 2014

I fail to understand what Stone's latest filmic agonies have to do Film Ferrania and their production plans ...

StoneNYC · Aug 12, 2014

Nzoomed said:
Whats wrong with scanning them anyway? I reckon its the only way to go, the colour reproduction seems perfect on all my scans...

It really is, a lot of people here just like to argue for no reason just to be difficult. I highly doubt if you took Portra and made an interneg if a Velvia50 image, and then optically printed it, that the saturation of color apparent in the original transparency would be at all comparable to the print.

Color film developing and printing is hard enough already without adding more complications to the process.

And projecting your sheet film with an overhead? For one what use is that if you're trying to sell prints.... and two, you'll end up scratching your film... No thank you...

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