What can you say about this film other than it works?
Did The Darkroom process and scan this image, or did you use their specs in your own tank?
I guess you could say: "It worked for me and here are my results and technique."?
I will give P30 a go when they bring it out in 120.
I’d give it a go in 35mm if it were generally available. The last time I dropped in on this discussion it appeared that P30 was not on the market and available to the general public, meaning me/us. If I’ve got this wrong and I can buy it online, please let me know.
It was available for a short time as an “alpha” product. Ferrania used this emulsion formula to test the factory equipment and all the production was sold in a week. They ran into some problems during production and took a long time to manufacture all the ordered films.
Since then, Ferrania is fine tuning their coating line and working with their finishing/packaging partner to sort out problems, but they say this partner is not meeting their needs.
They are stockpiling film so, when they reopen their web store again, they can meet the demand.
How long does it really take to provide periodic updates? For example, how long would it take to write:
"We are planning to have a very limited initial batch of P30 in 120 format in Feb/Mar, with more to come after that."
which is the news you shared with us today.
Reversal processing?
I'm upset because I want more p30 to shoot(and so have a justification to mix d96)
More seriously trough: do you have a technical explanation why developers such as Rodinal do not work well with the film (i.e., speed loss, red sensitivity loss [!])?
It was available for a short time as an “alpha” product. Ferrania used this emulsion formula to test the factory equipment and all the production was sold in a week. They ran into some problems during production and took a long time to manufacture all the ordered films.
Since then, Ferrania is fine tuning their coating line and working with their finishing/packaging partner to sort out problems, but they say this partner is not meeting their needs.
They are stockpiling film so, when they reopen their web store again, they can meet the demand.
This is nonsense. Consistency in processing with Rodinal is not a problem. It is a well understood developer that has been around for over a hundred years. I have used it myself for over forty years. It always works in a predictable manner. Sure, just like every other developer, you can experiment with different dilutions, at different temperatures, for different times, and with different agitation patterns, but if you just follow the directions it works every time.And so instead of focusing on the "why," we're working with a few photographers to test various Rodinal techniques to find one that yields the type of results we expect, and that works consistently. (The consistency is the main problem with that particular chemistry)
This is a very accurate and succinct assessment. Just one correction - the film will remain in its ALPHA version until we deem it "cinema-quality." All of our films in the future will also be held to this standard.
I like the cat one but can't help but observe that one of the pupils( right one from the cat's perspective) is much bigger than the left one but both seem to be subject to the same amount of light falling on them. Is this a peculiarity of the cat's eyes?Nikon F6/Nikkor 85mm f/2, 80ASA, Developed in Kodak TMAX Developer, 1:6 @ 24C for 7 minutes. Kodak TMAX agitation: 5-7 rapid inversions initial 30s and 5-7 each 30s. Water stop bath, TF-4 fix for 5 minutes, Ilford wash method, photo flo and cabinet dry. Scanned via Pakon F135 to raw, inverted using colorperfect, no other modifications.
I respectfully disagree on this one. It is not just some sort of nerd thing, but having full documentation and specifications of one product IMHO helps understand and use it better. I understand that the priority is elsewhere now, but I still think comprehensive documentation it is an important companion to the product itself, in particular for something like p30 that variates a lot depending on the developer.The "why" will come later...
I like the cat one but can't help but observe that one of the pupils( right one from the cat's perspective) is much bigger than the left one but both seem to be subject to the same amount of light falling on them. Is this a peculiarity of the cat's eyes?
Not relevant to the thread I know but I am curious.
Thanks
pentaxuser
This is nonsense. Consistency in processing with Rodinal is not a problem. It is a well understood developer that has been around for over a hundred years. I have used it myself for over forty years. It always works in a predictable manner. Sure, just like every other developer, you can experiment with different dilutions, at different temperatures, for different times, and with different agitation patterns, but if you just follow the directions it works every time.
Query: what was the developer and processing methodology you used to determine P30 has an ISO of 80?
One question that has remained unanswered is how many rolls of P30 did you actually deliver to customers?
But knowing the number of months it took produce the batch, and the finishing throughput... the estimate seems quite favorable!One question that has remained unanswered is how many rolls of P30 did you actually deliver to customers?
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