From what I remember, Dave Bias stopped posting around the time Film Ferrania decided to engage less with forums and social media....again, due to threats, insults and abuse from people who accused them of fraud, lies and worse.....people who don't understand or didn't read the Kickstarter....believed they had ordered film and got angry when they discovered that what they'd actually signed up for was to donate towards saving equipment to manufacture film.
From what they've said, I think they are concentrating on B&W as it is something they can now reliably manufacture and actually brings in funds. P30 was an unusual film, one I happen to like in certain circumstances. P33 seems more "general purpose" and I've not used it yet but have seen some truly lovely photos taken with it. There was a rumour they were going to release P36 too (320ASA) but that hasn't happened yet. They did mention a good while back that research was continuing in the background on colour film. But as they have consistently stated in recent years, they are only going to release news when they are ready to share a product with us.
That strategy is supposed to put an end to the entitled folk who cry and scream about Ferrania being crooks every time this small company misses a target that was always aspirational rather than realistic....or when the Italian government cuts their campus in two and turns off the gas and electricity.
I doubt they'll abandon colour.
SorryFerrania once were one of the largest producers of colour film in the world. And the equipment that was saved by the people behind the current version of Ferrania is/was capable of much of what is needed to bring it back.
It takes a lot more than equipment to bring it to fruition.
Sorry
I meant the modern day company.
"Abandon"............ are they making it now.?
Fujifilm has finished their huge investment in their film factory
Did I miss anything? When did they invest in any film factory, apart from the regular investments to keep a production system from the 1970s-1990s from collapsing?
ontopic.
Ah, thanks. No, I didn't miss anything going by what you've said. They coat Instax on their age-old production line in Japan, which has been around since, like, forever.
Where can I find P33 in 120 format?
All right, perhaps one day.
You cant yet....they have thus far only launched it in 135.
exactly! does that mean P30 is discontinued in to make room for other products? anyone live in the north of Italy?someone on Facebook Pointed out that the Film Ferrania web site is now showing P30 as "The very Last Production. with all the other products sold out..
What the heck does that mean?
di nuova produzione
someone on Facebook Pointed out that the Film Ferrania web site is now showing P30 as "The very Last Production. with all the other products sold out..View attachment 379630
This is what their site usually looks like. Things become available and are in stock for a couple of days, and then become out of stock for months. P30 in 135x36 is usually in stock but sometimes they're out of everything. Combining this with the frequent stock issues at B&H, I read this to mean they truly cannot keep up with demand.I think @koraks is right. The issue here is probably a false friend in the Italian>English translation.
I think what they meant up here is 'latest' but they went for 'last' instead.
'Ultimo/più recente' <-> 'latest'
'Finale' <-> 'last/final'
I think they meant that if you buy the product, it's going to be the freshest/most recent batch.
Now what I find slightly worrying is that 'out of stock' for P33 and most of their other products. What is the issue? Does the stuff fly off the shelves and they can't make it fast enough? Do they have issues making it? I hope not the latter.
I just bought a few rolls of 35mm size P30 ... hoping for good things ... but the box has no "expiry" date (or any other date). Is this normal?
And whilst I'm posting, can anyone recommend a suitable developer for this film? I usually use Rodinal (but too grainy for this film?) or D76.
Look very carefully at the box. I could barely see something that resembled an expiry date stamped into it...That was a few years ago, though. Maybe they stopped doing that? As far as developers go, I only use Thornton's 2-Bath. This film is not ISO 80, either. You can shoot it at that, if you want empty shadows, though. I prefer it at EI 32. If I didn't love Thornton's 2-Bath so much, I would probably use D-76 1+1. P30 is quite fine grained, so I wouldn't worry about using Rodinal... at what dilution? I have no clue. I have a few videos on my youtube channel...
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