Film Ferrania - Developments from October 2023 onward

PhotoGeek35 said:

The Wikipedia (Italy) site in says:
“Nel 2023 i fondatori Nicola Baldini e Marco Pagni lasciano l'azienda, Silvio Pignone è il nuovo CEO.”

which translates (via Google translate) to:
“In 2023 the founders Nicola Baldini and Marco Pagni leave the company, Silvio Pignone is the new CEO.”

FILM Ferrania - Wikipedia

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Not a good sign in my opinion.

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I would actually argue that this is a good sign, these "founders" were film-makers, not film manufacturers, its likely they bought some funding to get things moving and perhaps they got tired and wanted to move on?
We shouldn't speculate who did what or where the money went, but its easy to draw conclusions that may or may not be correct.
All I know is the Italian government caused numerous roadblocks and appears to have a level of corruption also. Hopefully they can come to the party and give the company some much needed funding, they largely were responsible for most of the mess they faced in the early days.
If Silvio can bring back some of the staff laid off from the original company and secure funding, then we might see some serious moves in a positive direction soon.

Nzoomed said:

You referring to Dave Bias, I have good reason to believe he is still involved in the company.

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Could be correct....I remember his moving away from publicising Film Ferrania on social media due to all the horrible posts haters threw at him, as if he was personally responsible for their disappointment in the original Kickstarter rewards ultimately being unachievable. But I don't recall any announcement that he left the company entirely.

EDIT...his LinkedIn profile says he was president of Film Ferrania s.r.l from May 2014 to June 2023 so perhaps he has stepped down???

The Film Ferrania website is currently down. Hopefully only temporary or could this be the end? I hope not!

When I went to their website, I got:

File non trovato (File not found)
L'indirizzo inserito non è più disponibile oppure è errato. Verifica di aver digitato correttamente dopodichè avvisa il webmaster del problema incontrato. (The address entered is no longer available or is incorrect. Check that you have typed correctly and then notify the webmaster of the problem encountered.)

Hopefully it's just down for maintenance... or a revamp.

Looks like they currently have a weird redirect loop, where filmferrania.com redirects to filmferrania.it, which redirects back.

Let's just see what happens when whoever handles their web presence gets to work on Monday...

Hopefully just a glitch. It was up yesterday.

tech problems happen.

Agulliver said:

Could be correct....I remember his moving away from publicising Film Ferrania on social media due to all the horrible posts haters threw at him, as if he was personally responsible for their disappointment in the original Kickstarter rewards ultimately being unachievable. But I don't recall any announcement that he left the company entirely.

EDIT...his LinkedIn profile says he was president of Film Ferrania s.r.l from May 2014 to June 2023 so perhaps he has stepped down???

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Yeah i reached out to him about 18 months ago and said things were still moving along.
I didn't realize he was the company president, I thought he was mostly involved in marketing, I believe he was potentially an investor in the company and provided some funding, so who knows, hopefully we will hear from him again publicly at some point.
I sent him an email yesterday to his Ferrania email address and it bounced back, so perhaps he is no longer involved?

I alos get the bounce between the .it version and the .COM version


well the Geek in me found that the registration for film ferania.it is unchanged

Domain: filmferrania.it
Status: ok
Signed: no
Created: 2012-04-13 19:14:05
Last Update: 2024-04-29 00:51:10
Expire Date: 2025-04-13

Registrant
Organization: hidden

Admin Contact
Name: hidden
Organization: hidden

Technical Contacts
Name: Tophost Srl > Registra il tuo dominio con www.tophost.it
Organization: Tophost Srl Hosting Italiano
Address: Piazza della Libertà 10
Roma
00192
RM
IT
Created: 2009-09-28 11:25:11
Last Update: 2018-06-29 09:01:23

Registrar
Organization: Seeweb S.r.l.
Name: TOPHOST-REG
Web: https://www.tophost.it
DNSSEC: no


Nameservers
ns1.th.seeweb.it
ns2.th.seeweb.it

and the COM registarion is only good till the end of the month...


Domain Name: FILMFERRANIA.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1777528762_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.register.it
Registrar URL: http://we.register.it
Updated Date: 2024-01-20T00:00:00Z
Creation Date: 2013-01-31T00:00:00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2025-01-31T00:00:00Z
Registrar: REGISTER S.P.A.
Registrar IANA ID: 168
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@register.it
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +39.05520021555
Reseller:
Domain Status: ok https://icann.org/epp#ok
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Registrant Organization: FILM FERRANIA SRL
Registrant Street: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Registrant City: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Registrant State/Province: FI
Registrant Postal Code: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Registrant Country: IT
Registrant Phone: REDACTED.FORPRIVACY
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax: REDACTED.FORPRIVACY
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: https://domaincontact.register.it/contact-domain
Registry Admin ID:
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Name Server: NS1.TH.SEEWEB.IT
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DNSSEC: unsigned


note that both addresed use the same set of Name servers. th.seeweb.it

and both web sites are on the same lan it seems...

host filmferrania.com
filmferrania.com has address 217.64.195.238
filmferrania.com has IPv6 address 2001:4b78:1001::5901
filmferrania.com mail is handled by 10 m-59b.th.seeweb.it.
filmferrania.com mail is handled by 20 smtp-avas-th.seeweb.it.

host filmferrania.it
filmferrania.it has address 217.64.195.216
filmferrania.it has IPv6 address 2001:4b78:1001::701
filmferrania.it mail is handled by 20 smtp-avas-th.seeweb.it.
filmferrania.it mail is handled by 10 m-07b.th.seeweb.it.

I emailed Dave the other day and got a response, out of respect I won't share his response and will leave it up to him to go public if and when he feels the time is right.
What I can confirm is he is no longer with the company and the last remaining founder Nicola Baldini also has since left.
The current fate of Film Ferrania is still up in the air, but I hope they pull through.

Nzoomed said:

I emailed Dave the other day and got a response, out of respect I won't share his response and will leave it up to him to go public if and when he feels the time is right.
What I can confirm is he is no longer with the company and the last remaining founder Nicola Baldini also has since left.
The current fate of Film Ferrania is still up in the air, but I hope they pull through.

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I've sent an email to the three email addresses in the once-operative Ferrania webpage.
Still haven't received any answers.

Alessandro Serrao said:

I've sent an email to the three email addresses in the once-operative Ferrania webpage.
Still haven't received any answers.

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Hopefully you get a response soon, it's still a good sign if the emails don't bounce back as undeliverable. I think we should have an idea in the next months what's going on.
I hope everything works out.

Yeah not exactly promising news but thank you for reaching out to Dave Bias. I remain somewhat hopeful that the company still wants to keep film alive for the next 100 years. I do like P30 in the right circumstances and will probably be shooting some in Lanzarote next month.

Agulliver said:

Yeah not exactly promising news but thank you for reaching out to Dave Bias. I remain somewhat hopeful that the company still wants to keep film alive for the next 100 years. I do like P30 in the right circumstances and will probably be shooting some in Lanzarote next month.

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Yeah I'm still hopeful, would be nice if someone at the company gives us an update sometime soon.

I'm not one of those who are enthusiastic about top-level management changes that are results of departures of founding members, but hope Ferrania can survive this.

If anything, they've shown they don't quit easily. It does not look good, thought...

Haven't received any hint of an answer from Ferrania itself, I've received on the contrary an answer from one of its distributors for Italy.
It's in italian...
Basically after management changes the production was halted and it's believed to resume in the following spring.
Fingers crossed.

Alessandro Serrao said:

Haven't received any hint of an answer from Ferrania itself, I've received on the contrary an answer from one of its distributors for Italy.
It's in italian...
Basically after management changes the production was halted and it's believed to resume on the following spring.
Fingers crossed.

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OK, so thats about 2-3 months away

Film Ferrania website is back online and working. So at least that is something, and hopefully a good sign.

bfilm said:

Film Ferrania website is back online and working. So at least that is something, and hopefully a good sign.

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that is some relief!

only partly working for me. https://www.filmferrania.com/collections/all seems to work BUT just plain https://www.filmferrania.com/ still gets into a loop with http://www.filmferrania.it/

Both work fine for me now.

Both working fine for me. Perhaps refresh/flush your browser cache if they're not?

FWIW, I was looking at the FF website and checked if I could add a roll of P30 in the shopping cart. I got a e-mail today saying "Hai lasciato articoli nel carrello" which google tells me means "You left items in your cart" E-mail was from FILM Ferrania <store+*******@g.shopifyemail.com> (stars replacing the numbers in the orginal...) so the site is not completly dead yet

The upheaval isn't exactly confidence inspiring but it looks like they're still intending to keep going. If nothing else, P30 and P33 have a committed group of users.