Hi,
I have a hard time thinking that +1 stop in film development will be +1 grade in the enlarger. First why dont you like to print them using grade 3-4? If the print is good, well, then its good, no matter if you print it on 4 or 2. If you want to control your contrast, then you have to use the Zone system (or any other system that lets you control the contrast, but the zone system is the easiest). Its not hard, but you need to do some test, use one film, one developer and develop EXACTLY the same way. When you have nailed it down, you can start playing with film or developer (I use 3 films, but always the same developer and developer procedure).
Try to get hold of The Practical Zone System: For Film and Digital Photography written by Chris Johnson ( http://www.amazon.com/Practical-Zon...=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1284208706&sr=8-1 ) its the best book to learn the Zone system. I teach it at our local photo club (both film and digital) and this book helps 95% of the once taking the course. It take some test roles but you will soon dialed in the contrast and dynamic range.
cheers
... I would like my prints to "normally" end up in grade 2-2.5 with the main exposure to make sure my negatives are most flexible to work with. And I believe since grade 2 is in the middle of the grades on VC paper, thats what I should aim for. ...
... I am familiar with the zone system and use it already, I just need to translate them into paper grades
Yes, and you do this all with film exposure and development, not with paper contrast.
Mission impossible, two different kettle of fish!
Hi!
I wonder if +1 film development corresponds with one grade contrast change on paper?
I need to increase contrast of my negatives so they print well in grade 2-2.5, since they always end in grade 3-4 when I print now. Will +1 development do the trick?
I believe different papers need different negative development to match the grades for printing. Any advice on a standard way to go about this?
Thanks!
Try to get hold of The Practical Zone System: For Film and Digital Photography written by Chris Johnson ( http://www.amazon.com/Practical-Zon...=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1284208706&sr=8-1 ) its the best book to learn the Zone system. I teach the zone system at our local photo club (both for film and digital) and this book is usually really appreciated by the people taking the course. It take some test roles but you will soon dialed in the contrast and dynamic range.
I know you are using Tmax 400 as I am too. Im using xtol as developer, any idea of how much I should increase development time to get a better match with my paper, taking into account I would like to print at 1.5 grade lower than Im doing today (+ 10% +20% ?)
For a normal contrast, bright but cloudy day, cut the manufacturer’s recommended film speed by 2/3 stop (i.e. ISO 400/27° becomes ISO 250/25°) and the recommended development time by 15%.
Hi!
I wonder if +1 film development corresponds with one grade contrast change on paper?
I need to increase contrast of my negatives so they print well in grade 2-2.5, since they always end in grade 3-4 when I print now. Will +1 development do the trick?
I believe different papers need different negative development to match the grades for printing. Any advice on a standard way to go about this?
Thanks!
If your negatives are routinely needing to be printed on grades 3 or 4 after being shot in average-contrast lighting, it does not mean that you should be giving N+1 or N+2 development. It means that you are now giving N-1 or N-2 development, and you need to find what is "N" for you. So, regardless of what you call it, you need "more" development. However, if you need this to achieve a normal level of contrast in the first place, then it is said that you are not developing an N plus anything; you are simply developing for N. That is what "N" means, after all.
Better you should get Ralph W. Lambrecht's book Way Beyond Monochrome, second addition! www.waybeyondmonochrome.com He is an APUG member who has given advice for free here for years.
Another cheap plug supplied by Sirius Glass.
http://www.waybeyondmonochrome.com/
... The zone system and the control of development is aimed to use the capability of the film the record a special range of light. It has nothing to do with your feeling how the image should look like. ...
Here is a simple technique, which will improve picture quality significantly and does not require any testing at all. Use it if you dislike testing with a passion, or if you just dont have the time for a test at the moment. This method can also be used to give a new film a test drive and compare it to the one you are using now.
For a normal contrast, bright but cloudy day, cut the manufacturers recommended film speed by 2/3 stop (i.e. ISO 400/27° becomes ISO 250/25°) and the recommended development time by 15%. The increased exposure will boost the shadow detail, and the reduced development time will prevent the highlights from becoming too dense. For a high-contrast, bright and sunny day, increase the exposure by an additional 2/3 stop (i.e., ISO 400/27° now becomes ISO 160/23°) and reduce the development time by a total of 30%. Stick to the box speed and suggested development time for images taken on a low-contrast, rainy or foggy day.
A negative processed this way will easily print with a diffusion enlarger on grade-2 or 2.5 papers. Just give it a try. It is really that simple to make a significant improvement to negative and image quality.
Here is a simple technique, which will improve picture quality significantly and does not require any testing at all. Use it if you dislike testing with a passion, or if you just dont have the time for a test at the moment. This method can also be used to give a new film a test drive and compare it to the one you are using now.
For a normal contrast, bright but cloudy day, cut the manufacturers recommended film speed by 2/3 stop (i.e. ISO 400/27° becomes ISO 250/25°) and the recommended development time by 15%. The increased exposure will boost the shadow detail, and the reduced development time will prevent the highlights from becoming too dense. For a high-contrast, bright and sunny day, increase the exposure by an additional 2/3 stop (i.e., ISO 400/27° now becomes ISO 160/23°) and reduce the development time by a total of 30%. Stick to the box speed and suggested development time for images taken on a low-contrast, rainy or foggy day.
A negative processed this way will easily print with a diffusion enlarger on grade-2 or 2.5 papers. Just give it a try. It is really that simple to make a significant improvement to negative and image quality.
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