I’m thinking that since long toe films are still being made ... there has to be a reason.
Ray;
Yes there are and it is easly defined by using the curve I posted above. Straight = Straight. I used a straight edge to draw the 2.5 gamma portion of the curve. Anything above that line is toe and anything below that line is shoulder. The measurement points are on the graph. I used a similar overlay with marked points for film.
PE
... The bottom line here is that the paper may be more of a problem than the film in many cases. ...
When I saw these humps first, I questioned my data collection, but then I saw the Kodak TechPubs and knew it wasn't me.
Ralph - do you use/test Acros? I always get a hump in it with XTOL and Pyro developers. I beleive I have good control on my densitometer so I believe it to be an artifact of the film and not the densitometer.
David
Does that mean I can call the following equation the Luther-Goldenberg equation?
y= a1*Log(1+Exp(a2*x+a3))/(a4+Log(1+Exp(a2*x+a3)))
Sure! But, is it working for you?
EK uses a cubic spline to describe all curves for all products ...
In all of my work I have never seen the spline fail!
the 'box speed' ...to two or three significant digits?
ISO speed is a gross simplification of the film response. It says absolutely nothing about the shape of the HD curve. To quantify it to 3 significant digits - .1% or 0.0014 stops is - well, how shall I put this politely ... of course you can do it, but it would have no relevance.
IC;
However, the release aim of 400 means just that and it is adjusted at coating time by the use of a trimmer dye to get an exact speed. You see this dye and the acutance dyes washing out of the coating during processing. The 3 digit internal speeds are used to determine the amount of trimmer dye to be used.
ISO speed is a gross simplification of the film response. It says absolutely nothing about the shape of the HD curve.
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