expired film

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    plus-x pan-x and ektachrome 200 all expired in 1993 is it worth buying.[​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    I would pick the Pan-X, Tri-X & all these cassettes. If it's a "Take it all ", if the price is good, I'd still pick them.
     
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    Do you think chemicals are ok?
     
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    Any idea how it was stored? I'll buy all the Ektachrome off you. I'm located in Nova Scotia so shipping shouldn't be too bad.
     
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    i think it was stored in a basement for 25 years.
     
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    Chemicals OK if package not damaged. Plus-X OK but will evidence some fog. Read my post about age-fog from a few weeks ago. Ektachrome NOT OK, but can be processed as B&W with Dektol followed by Farmer's Reducer.

    The B&W powdered chems will outlast you. Keep in secure, closed containers. Slight browning of developer powder is of no concern. Kodak's cans were excellent, much better than their disgusting foil packs. - David Lyga
     
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    Thanks David
     
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    hi mike
    if you set the bar low you will enjoy yourself
    don't expect the film to be as good as fresh film
    some may not be worth shooting
    others may require restrainers or using print developer or
    and / or not caring what the negatives look like
    if you buy the film i wouldn't pay much for it
    and if you do end up getting it
    have fun
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    I'm shamelessly hijacking Mike's thread.
    Earlier today, I have found a 100ft of Kodak 5302 at a flea market and I was wondering it was any good?
    Expiration date unknown, method of storage unknown, however, the price tag was only 10$.


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    It might very well be useful, but it isn't designed for normal photographic use.
     
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    At ISO 6, it is certainly not meant for Christmas vacation pictures.
    I think I'll go back tomorrow and snag it, can't really go wrong for 10$cad.
     
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    I went back to buy it this morning to buy it, the instruction sheet says 1971.
     
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    I read "5302" as February 1953 on the box.

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    Hi Olaf,

    I think they just forgot to punch the expiration date, hopefully, there is a date on the instruction sheet. Here's a picture of the same film with an expiration date from 1955.
    The Film Photography Project sells hand-rolled rolls of 5302 which expired in 1972, they've rated it at ISO 1. (Hopefully my meter can go that far heh)

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    I tested it yesterday, it's contrasty and has a creamy look. I think I'll use it for portraits under a bright sun or on a tripod for architectural stuff.
    Upon closer inspection of the edge code, it's been manufactured in 1972 1971. So the expiration date should be around 1974/75 ?
     
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    I'd buy it for its collector appeal - well worth the asking price. The fact that it may still be useful after a fashion is a bonus.

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    5302 is a Motion Picture product for making theatrical prints from original Black & White camera negatives. The film speed at coating would be closer to an ASA of 2 (vs. 6 previously reported), and was a higher contrast product. Being a motion picture product, expiration dating is not added to the packaging. Typical expiration dating for films like this would be 2 years. 100 ft. rolls were sold for use in the manufacturing of specialized training slide decks or film strip projections (used by industry, schools, trade shows, etc.) where a large number of copies were not required. I believe "Schindler's List" was the last large theatrical Black & White movie to be distributed on 5302.
     
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