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ICRacer: I like this photo a lot! Guessing it began as a long exposure through the windscreen of a car as you were driving down a highway at night....
ICRacer: I like this photo a lot! Guessing it began as a long exposure through the windscreen of a car as you were driving down a highway at night....
But what the heck do you mean by “indexicality of photography”?
indexicality means something existed and reflected back into the camera and film registered or indexed it the indexical nature of photography roots it into reality cause things do not magically appear on the negative that did not exist in front of the camera unlike digital files not indexical so are they photography?
Any chance of explaining the above again in as simple a way as possible. I could your words quite clearly but I am afraid none of it make any sense to me. Put it down to my age. Pretend you are explaining it to your grandad
Thanks
pentaxuser
I don't think the nature of the sign needs to be physical, or that a digital index would be any less of an index than one on film. Maybe you're thinking of materiality, which can be understood to refer to the physical nature of something and the relevance of that physicality. Perhaps at that observation we should also abandon the tangent of the digital vs. analog comparison, since OP very specifically inquires into the medium of film, which makes it not very relevant to dive too deeply into this issue of indexicality as it pertains to the film/digital distinction. A discussion of this would be interesting, but I'd invite those interested in it to start a new thread on it.the camera records / indexes onto the film. the index I think means it physically exists as a record of reality.
the camera records / indexes onto the film. the index I think means it physically exists as a record of reality. There is no chemical latent image that is a digital file, the image file through a different process and they say it makes a difference. I am not a philosopher and to be honest they seem the same to me, but if you ask a philosopher they might attempt to change your mind.
Don't lose any sleep worrying about this. There is a parallel language called academese filled with made-up words only pertinent to the denizens of the place called academe. "Indexicality" is one, like "conflation" for example. After 30 years in that profession, I'm actively trying to unlearn the lingo. In short, just load up your camera and go out and shoot: that's all the understanding you really need!Thanks I had never heard of "index" in this context, nor its extension of "indexicality" I didn't even know they were real words
I can't say I understand what this point of philosophy is even about nor its practical application to analogue photography so I'll just have to wallow in my ignorance but thanks for trying to explain it
pentaxuser
"conflation"
Thanks I had never heard of "index" in this context, nor its extension of "indexicality" I didn't even know they were real words
I can't say I understand what this point of philosophy is even about nor its practical application to analogue photography so I'll just have to wallow in my ignorance but thanks for trying to explain it
pentaxuser
ICRacer: I like this photo a lot! Guessing it began as a long exposure through the windscreen of a car as you were driving down a highway at night....
Indexicality has been a well discussed topic in photography for decades. At a basic level it is accepted that a man had his shoes shined in 1838 on the Boulevard du Temple because there exists evidence that the light reflecting from this physical object left its chemical marks ( that is an image) resulting in the daguerreotype. One leads to the other in only one way, it indicates the other.
Here is a quite good discussion of the concept and its implication.
https://aestheticsofphotography.com/exploring-indexicality-in-photography/
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