Thanks; they illustrate very aptly what I pointed out earlier. The problem you're dealing with when working with film this far gone is very much at the toe of the curve, i.e. the shadows. They turn out flat - and on film as badly fogged as this, so do the highlights.Now, here are my favorite images from that roll of film:
Yes, it does mean exactly that, at least if 'good' also implies 'technically good'. If 'good' means 'technically inferior images, but I'm still pleased with what I got', then yes, I agree. But this has more to do with the fun of shooting film, of doing things in a way you please and perhaps the anticipation involved in waiting for the images to come out. I understand I'm being a cpt. Buzzkill in pointing all this out, but I know from experience that the novelty of shooting film can wear off, and that many people start looking more closely at the results they get. They may then decide that the time and effort is still worth it, provided they have a fighting chance right from the start. My comments are aimed mostly at those people, or the ones who figure they may one day fall in that category.So, just because it has a lot of base fog, doesn't mean you can't get good images.
I almost never get good results from expired film from the 80s or earlier. One exception I have heard but not tried myself is Verichrome Pan.
If you want to save money, I'd stick to slow B&W films from 2000 or later - or use fresh Kentmere/Fomapan. You're in Alberta, Flic Film sells rebranded Foma.
The film could be useful for images where you're purposely going for a degraded look. Think abandoned buildings, gritty scenes, images where you might want to invoke a feeling of decay, fear, or ephemerality.
Expired film is atrocious for learners. Best for once you have already built a confidence in your ability and need to be taken down a notch.
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Expired film is not your friend and the losses one experiences are not worth the cost savings. Only buy fresh film, checking the expiration date and comparing it with the film in the back of the shelve.
Excellent points.Well, using film like this has some advantages for someone just learning. But it also puts a pretty low ceiling on the results you can achieve which may feel discouraging.
I had a look at inverting and contrast-adjusting a snippet of your comparison...
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The film could be useful for images where you're purposely going for a degraded look. Think abandoned buildings, gritty scenes, images where you might want to invoke a feeling of decay, fear, or ephemerality.
But you may want to go into a project with this in mind, rather than trying to use it for general photography. Only use it where it's the "right tool for the job." Harmonize your subjects with the style of rendering. They're quick charcoal sketches, not grand renaissance oil paintings.
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