"dumb" question how do I open this plastic cassette

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Finally got around to shooting the one roll of Lomography Babylon 13 that I bought a while back.

How does this cassette open? And can it be reused?
 

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I could never open these types of cassettes (in a dark box or changing bag) without breaking them.
If you had a film picker, you could try and retrieve the tongue/leader and cut the film off the spool and use the remaining piece of film to tape a bulk roll of film.

IIRC, these type of cassettes were usually in reloaded single use cameras, probably from China. (note the teeth on the end of the center spool)
 

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just because I am stubborn, I found that if you use a flat pry tool, you can lift the "latch" that holds the end together, and then swing the cassette open. I actually bought some "empty" ones from E-bay and found that the seller had used developed C-41 negatives to put the cassette together. Those empty ones I could prod in the light and find where to pry. the ones with live film you of course have to do taht sort of nonsense in the dark. Besides Flic Film, I also had some Double X packed by a chinese seller as "CineStyle"

Still about half of them I ended up breaking off the Latch part of the end.

Note that if you want to open that style please note that many of them have a label over the split. that has to be peeled, or cut away so the two halves will come open.

When Flic Film first started up, they had a mention of a tool called a "Flic Pick" which was a jig that pushed a pin into all 4 sites needed to pry teh cassette open. you would close the tool with the cassette indide and pry up the open side. when I enquired they said the tool was discontinued as the tools that they had were prone to breakage.

I am assuming form the picture that these are the same style.
I think these are the same style of cassettes.
 

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That's the gizmo that opens them.
Maybe there's something similar on Thingiverse?
 

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That tool for the Flic film cassettes looks good but will the cassette be suitable to reload and snap back together and be light-tight?
 

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yes to update - I did manage to get a "Flic Pik from https://filmexperiencecamerastore.com/product/flic-fundamentals-135-bulk-loading-kit/

And it worked quite well on a cassette that was loaded by Flic Film. the flaps on the device have a tiny tooth that prys the flaps JUST ENOUGH to allow the cassette to come apprt. Pull the spool toward you and one half of the cassette stays in the Flic Pic and the other half and the spool comes out.
you must completely remove the label as flic film uses a very thick plastic label, whic also holds the two halfs together.
I do wonder how many operations that the small tooth will stand up to. the tabs on the cassette had muuch less bending than the Method I explained above.
 

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Pretty sure those are one time use
 

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Pretty sure those are one time use
they can be reused if you are very careful. they have a complex constuction so they would be trickly to assemble in the dark. (I generaly change the cassettes I am filing with a bulk loader in the dark to avoid fogging the last frame on the roll. )

the front of the light trap has to fit into two slots that hold it tight. it also will fit together a couple of ways that are Wrong, except the tabs will not lock into place.
 

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I've opened and closed it at least 10 times now. The slits that you need to put your fingernails in to pry them open are now a bit easier to feel, but the cassette still closes with a positive snap. This cassette looks to be able to survive more than one load of film.
 

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My concern is will the part of the cassette, opposite to the felted light trap, join up with the rest of the cassette and will this joint be light tight.

flic pic Cassette-5-pack-1-of-1-scaled small.jpg
 
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In the end I jammed a butter knife in the felt opening and prized it open in a dark bag. But I had been thinking of reusing it. However, if it's going to be that difficult...I'll pass. I have 30+ plastic cassettes for bulk rolling. The recent films I bought from Poly Film Lab which are Kodak 500T are this style of cassette too.
 

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I'm going to get this "flic pic"...

OK, well, I acquired the Flic Pic™ and tested it on the Flic Film cassettes that came with it and the Sensei cassettes that I bought from B&H. I can confirm that it works with both types of cassettes, although I am slightly worried about the longevity of this snap-together style. However, it does seem like a low-cost solution. I have a 400' roll of film to split up, so it must happen for me.

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OK, well, I acquired the Flic Pic™ and tested it on the Flic Film cassettes that came with it and the Sensei cassettes that I bought from B&H. I can confirm that it works with both types of cassettes, although I am slightly worried about the longevity of this snap-together style. However, it does seem like a low-cost solution. I have a 400' roll of film to split up, so it must happen for me.

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OK, well, I acquired the Flic Pic™ and tested it on the Flic Film cassettes that came with it and the Sensei cassettes that I bought from B&H. I can confirm that it works with both types of cassettes, although I am slightly worried about the longevity of this snap-together style. However, it does seem like a low-cost solution. I have a 400' roll of film to split up, so it must happen for me.

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Where did you find this kit? In the US? These cassettes are a pain without the Flic Pic if a person intends to reuse the cassettes. I bought a few of the cassettes from B&H look to be pretty good.
The other plastic cassettes B&H sells are a train wreck.
 

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60 years ago I tried to open my first Kodak 35mm cassette and ripped apart my palm with a can opener "churchkey". Blood all over the place.

But how did the film comeout?
 

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This location in Canada seems to carry all of the FLICFILM offerings, and are at the same address.
Reading between the lines of some of the videos that I have seen about flic film (brooklin Camera has posted a few on You tube) the entire Filc Film operation started as an extension to the film experience Business. the same guy (Dave Marshall) seems to also have an art gallery, and a Travel book Publishing Gig. (all in the same building). he seems to be rather down to earth actually
see the tour here
 
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