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I got it from Beau Photo in Canada. Not the most ideal, but I got it. I asked Freestyle to get it, but they said they weren't ordering anytime soon. I just bought a ton of the cassettes from B&H and I'm pretty happy. I have the tool that cuts the end into the right shape to fit into the spool.
which of course begs the question of sourcing that tool.
Flim Flam Man from Flic Film basically told me to go pound sand. The " my pillow guy" of film. I should have known better. No instructions, I followed the YouTube video on the Flic film website. Don't waste your time and to heck with their silly comes with Remjet Film.
Instructions would be nice. This is unsettling. I spent $40 dollars to get this and it breaks. I've been loading cassettes since 1972, I know what I'm doing, so I'm out the 40 bucks?
Mike
We do have two YouTubes.
Dave Marshall, President,
Box 216, Longview, Alberta, Canada T0L 1H0
flicfilm.ca
Mike
We do have two YouTubes.
Dave Marshall, President,
Box 216, Longview, Alberta, Canada T0L 1H0
flicfilm.ca
If you're bound and determined to shoot Vision 3 movie film buy from Cinestill No Remjet!
Yea, I'm not thrilled with them, but I don't really plan on buying much from them anyway.
Good idea to avoid these sort of people. I was quite nice, this Marshall fellow was flippant right off. There's nothing wrong with having a faulty product if you address the problem. I feel for people who are trying to get into analog and give up because of an experience like this. I note that this is V 8.0 on the device. Oh well last time I mess with Flic Film.
I also emailed with Dave, he sent me the education pricing for everything, but I don't think I'm going to order for my college (nothing they have I really want or can't make/get myself, and it's also the wrong continent). The only thing I was seriously considering from them was their version of AeroColor, but it wasn't a good enough deal/supply.
There's no reason that someone else can't make a version a this "flic pick,' is there?
Of course the Missing REM-JET is the major Problem with the Cine-Still approch. Unless you like Halation, some folks like the artistic effect. I am meaning to try Flic Films remjct removal solution to see if it will actually work.
The first time I tried to buy a flic Pic, they told me that they had suspeded sales as they were having some problems with Beakage, about a year later I found one (white base, with Solid Black doors) on their own stores site. I bough one and confirmed it to work, so I bought a second as a spare. Needless to say I an using it with exterme care. I would prefer that the "Points" were to be made of Metal.
The entire process of using color cine film for stills should, IMHO, come with an expectation of strange results. I should have realized that there's simply not enough of a market, to do something like this right with such a limited market. I have a note in to Photo Warehouse, I will contact my credit card company, Citibank carries more weight than I do.
I did purchase a Rezivot film trimmer from Brooklyn Film Camera, it took me about 4 tries, now it produces beautiful results. Made in Taiwan, beautiful finish, comes in a nice cloth bag. I probably loaded a 500 cassettes in my first 30 years of bulk loading never would have dreamed of using such a thing. Sure is nice.
OK well, FreeStyle must have lied to me or changed their minds because this product was added to their site today: https://www.freestylephoto.com/301134-FLIC-FILM-THE-FLIC-PIC-TO-TAKE-APART-FLIC-CASSETTES
Perhaps they just added them to their stock. they are Now showing both the "electra" (c41 non mask Areo film, and the the chrome (EASTMAN 5294 Ektachrome) BUT NOT the Flicx version of 5222 all as "New items" on the web site
and yes, the one I got from "Film experience" looks like that picture and I looked closely and it is also Version 8. Definatly appers to be 3D printed, and Knowing that 3d Prints sometimes have weakness in one direction, I will be extra careful and only press at the area the cams are located.
Also, The "sensi" brand cassettes will work with this device, but the spools and a few other details are slightly different. so the FLIC cassettes seem to work more smoothly. Perhaps Flic DID by Tooling and really are having the molding for their Cassettes being done in Canada. their is a spline like feature inside theLarge end of the FLIC spools, which I did not see on the sensi spools. (which say China on the package)
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Some Fomapan film now also comes in these same plastic cassettes. It was either the 100 or the 200 (not both). Apparently it's due to the ongoing shortage of metal cassettes, which again is due to Kodak buying up all of the supply.
But Kodak makes their own from flat sheets, (as does Harman) - why would they buy up cassettes that they could not use? (I suepct that the OLD version of Ferrania may have had a decent business in fabricating cassettes for other manufacturers. unless it was AP-Photoplast who was doing it. Harman anounced that they had spent a half Million US equivelent to tool up to make their own. New Ferrania is now packing film in reusable cassettes of their own manufacture.
Kodak did have a shortage of tin free steel about a year back now, which resulted in them using shiny end caps for a few months.
Apparently they dual source between own production and external supply. Possibly because their own production capacity is insufficient.
The owner did say in one of the videos he is interviewed in that that allow the company to sidestep requiring steel sheet to make cassettes. (he also metioned that he was expecting that material to be hard to obtain the the relatively small quantities the Photo industry uses. Plastic moldings are able to be made fairly easaly iff you have a set of expensive molds. He also metioned that Plastic is easy to get in Alberta as part the products of the local petroleum industry. this implies in his mind he is solving a problem that he perceives as existing...
As to if it solves a problem for the entire industry is another mater. Also it is unclear if the design is something he purchased outright from a chinese supplier, (he claims he is making them in Canada, but did he have the molds made of import them.) his cassettes are slightly different from say the Sensi Cassettes from China that B&H sells.
I did appreciate being able to find some loaded cassettes of EKTACHROME 5294 E100 from Flic Film at about 5 dollars less than the ones Kodak sells for still use. It was ironic is that I ended up buying them from a dealer in the USA. I am also grateful that he has several chemicals that have "shipping from the states" problems on his web site. Fortunatly I am not in need of any of them at the moment. But the existance may allow me to play with Colour again without a carefully planned side trip to the USP store in Messina NY. (the previous sugestion was to have an american suplier ship to said store, and have them hold for pickup. Drive down and Pick the stuff up and declare it to customs on the way back home.
In summary, an additional resource. And these days those of us who want to play with film can use all the help we can get.
There are three ways to do this:
1- a hammer.
2- a pipe wrench.
3- the Nikita Chroesjtjov kick-with-your-shoe way (which is good to 'canalize' frustration).
Sorry no salvation nor reuse, just recycle...
Foma is also using them. Would you say that they're solving a problem that doesn't exist, too?
have not see one in person, to see if the Flic-Pik would be compatible.
Present batch of Foma 200 or Foma 100. Sorry, don't recall which it was (I'm pretty sure 200 thouh). This would be film shipped to retailers very recently; i.e. in the past few weeks or so.
I bought some Foma 400 from Film experience just last month. it was in the 100 year style Metal cassettes. ALthogh I am wondering is Flic Ultra film is in fact bulk spooled Foma. https://filmexperiencecamerastore.com/product/ultrapan-400-35mm/ And also the Photo warehouse finese, which Ultrafine sell in the same general style of Cassettes.
I think that the new cassettes are probably faster to assemble in the dark. And the new design was probably a way to bypass some patent.
For a commercial enterprise, they do have some advantages. The felt is easier to apply on them because of the two part design. When closed they are easier to keep closed than the other plastic spools with the twist top. They are pretty fool proof, especially if there is a label applied to them.
So, for quality control and a handmade operation, they do make some sense.
For a commercial enterprise, they do have some advantages. The felt is easier to apply on them because of the two part design. When closed they are easier to keep closed than the other plastic spools with the twist top. They are pretty fool proof, especially if there is a label applied to them.
So, for quality control and a handmade operation, they do make some sense.
Flic Film's UK distributor got me the Pic plus 5 cassettes set. It arrived this morning and I wish I had seen mshchem's post (in another thread) before. My cassettes are fine and would be very convenient if they opened easily; but the Pic is so poorly made that its little prising lugs (which wedge onto the cassette to open it) are different shapes and weak at that. I e-mailed Flic Film to ask their advice and got an abrupt "Contact our distributor" reply. No regrets, explanations or help at all. I've rarely been so disappointed.
A decently made pick would certainly help these cassettes to be a very convenient, re-usable product.
[Edit: I should have said specifically that my Pic doesn't work either. One lug opens its side correctly but the other just sits looking at it. Knowing how it's supposed to work, however, you can mimic its action using a no. 5 watchmaker's screwdriver to open one side after the other]
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