Determining contrast for enlargement

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Have you considered doing a contrast "ring-a-round"?
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But not only contrast. Once you have a half-decent print, spend the time and paper to bracket contrast and exposure. Maybe you'll find one you like better; certainly you will educate your eye-brain as to the actual effect of this or that change.
  • plus and minus one grade (decrease to plus minus 1/2 grade as you become more perceptive)
  • exposure bracket depends on grade; for grade 2: plus 40%, minus 30%; for grade 3 plus 30% minus 25%.
Another piece of advice. Before deciding on any change (grade, time) do a summary wash (rinsing +) of your test strip/print, then dry it (hairdryer) and examine it under a good lighting.

Another one. Always develop paper to the standard time; don't pull it from the dev if it seems too dark because (a) it will have muddy tones; (b) safelight if very bad for judging print tones (see above).

Actually, besides the arcane trio by Ansel Adams, Ralph Lambrecht's. "Way Beyond Monochrome" and Bruce Barnbaum's "Art of Photography" are incredibly practical.
I'll add David Vestal's The Craft of Photography. Note: the Craft, not the Art, not the Technique, not the Theory.
 

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I solved all of these problems by using split grade printing: I get the best print first with the magenta filter, the with the magenta exposure I find the best total print with the yellow filter. Who cares about with grade or partial grade and long as the print is the best possible. Dodging and burning are still done for either or both filters as necessary.
 

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I know, killing paper will help long term but the thing is im doing this on my own. I even tried looking up meetup photo groups, no one does enlarging, none of them do film, and most of them only buy a camera to show it off.

Where in the US do you live? Someone here might be local to you and willing to help in person. I, for one, do much better with demonstrations than with reading information.
 

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If you do split-grade printing, you don't have to be concerned with determining the contrast grade.

Exactly. Who cares if you need grade 1.95 or grade 2.127?
 

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Where in the US do you live? Someone here might be local to you and willing to help in person. I, for one, do much better with demonstrations than with reading information.

Absolutely. I learned split grade printing in a week long class that covered many other interesting and useful techniques.
 
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  1. Guess the grade, and make a test-strip to obtain correct exposure for the highlights.
  2. Change grade so that shadows appear as you want them (more test strips).
This is basically my approach as well. However, my "guess" at the starting grade is informed by a "proper proof." I find the proper proof an indispensable tool and recommend you use them as well. Allow me to elaborate :smile:

I proof all my negatives at a medium contrast setting (I like about 30M with my Chromega heads, but that's just personal preference; use your equivalent of grade 2 or 2.5). These are contact prints made using the enlarger as a light source. I get four 4x5 negatives on a sheet of 8x10 paper. More with smaller formats.

~First, you need to make a quick test strip to find your proper-proofing exposure. What you are looking for is the minimum exposure to make the clear film rebate indistinguishable from maximum paper black. Make the test strip by making sure paper around the negative is also exposed to your enlarger light. Make a series of strips with increasing time. Develop your test strip for your standard developing time (I like 2.5-3 minutes in my developers - really, standardizing your developing time will save you time and paper). Dry the test strip and evaluate it under what you consider ideal display lighting. Don't use lighting that's too dim or too bright or you'll get skewed results (yes, this is subjective, but so is printing). Find the shortest exposure where the clear film rebate and the adjacent paper black seem identical, or really, really, really close. Err on the side of less exposure. This is your proper proofing time for whatever enlarger head height, f-stop, light intensity, film and developer combination, etc. you used to make the contact print. (If you use different films, you need to do this for each, since each film/developer combination has a different film-base-plus-fog density.)

~Now, proof your negatives using that exposure, etc. Don't worry about getting them to look nice; that's not the point. What you'll end up with is a set of proofs that will give you information about your film exposure and development as well as giving you an idea of how to start printing.

(Sidebar: if your negatives have insufficient shadow detail, you need to rate your film slower and vice-versa. If the highlights are too dark, you need to develop your film more and vice-versa.)

~When you get around to printing a negative, look at the proper proof. Are you happy with the contrast? If so, then start there (you kept good notes when proofing, right?). If not, tweak the contrast a grade one direction or the other and start there.

~Make an initial test strip to determine print exposure using a detailed highlight (low-density area of the print) as your guide. Get the right exposure to render that detailed highlight how you want it. Do use your standard development time.

~Next make a straight print at your chosen exposure. Develop it for your standard development time and then evaluate it. I like to squeegee the print and hang it from clips on my white board, which is under what I consider "gallery" lighting. Take some time deciding what you want to do with the print next. If the contrast is way off, change your contrast setting or filter and start over with another test strip to get the new base exposure time. If you're close to the right contrast, you can just make a small tweak, like 5-10CC or the next closest filter and guesstimate your new exposure; it's not critical at this point. Make small adjustments to your exposure at this time too. If your print is overall too light, but the contrast is close, add 20% more exposure or whatever or vice-versa. Decide on some initial dodging and burning here too. Write all this down so you have a detailed set of directions for your next print that included new contrast setting/filtration, base exposure time (and f-stop), and times and areas for dodging and burning.

~Make another print with your new time, contrast and manipulations. Develop it for your standard development time and repeat your evaluation. Make a plan for print number three. By the third print you should be getting closer to a final product unless you have a really tricky negative.

Some tips:
I like to think of changes in exposure and dodging/burning times as percentages of my base exposure. I have a pretty good idea now what a 15% change or a 5% change will look like. I make my test strips in rough 30% increments too, e.g., a series of seconds that looks like this: 10 - 13 - 17 - 22 - 29 - 37 - 48. That gives you roughly even spacing for the whole strip and a wide range of exposure times to choose from. You can extrapolate intermediate exposures easily if needed.

If you need to make a big change in either exposure or contrast setting/filtration, start over with a new test strip. This will save you time and money in the long run.

When you get close to your final product, let your prints dry before making the evaluation. Dry down makes a big difference in some prints. If you like the way the print looks wet, you may be disappointed when it dries.

My darkroom mantra is "waste time, not paper." Take your time evaluating your prints and planning the next steps. Keep notes and make a plan for each subsequent print.

Don't worry if you need to make a few test strips when starting with a new paper or film. Once you get in the ballpark, you'll have a better idea of where to start with the next print on the same paper or from the same film.

Split-grade printing is a great tool. I like to include it in my dodging/burning scheme. I'll burn with the highest-contrast setting or the lowest; whichever is needed. Sometimes I'll dodge and area so I can burn it back with a different filtration. My base contrast setting, however, is dialed in on my color head or by using one of the standard filters. You can do the whole contrast control with different amounts of the highest- and lowest-contrast filtration, but I find this tedious and wasteful of paper (for me anyway).

Hope this helps,

Doremus
 
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I was looking at my test print from last night, and realized that the negative set as a contrast 2, 000 on the dichro head dials, with the 50m/f3.5 set about half stop below 3.5 makes an awful decent test strip with a 3 second burn on the timer.

but the shadows seem a little muddy, the flower was an orange color so it seems slightly muddy as well. im thinking to do a 3 second burn as well as a 4 second burn.
 
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I was looking at my test print from last night, and realized that the negative set as a contrast 2, 000 on the dichro head dials, with the 50m/f3.5 set about half stop below 3.5 makes an awful decent test strip with a 3 second burn on the timer.

but the shadows seem a little muddy, the flower was an orange color so it seems slightly muddy as well. im thinking to do a 3 second burn as well as a 4 second burn.
Just so you know (which you may already): the sharpest stop for enlarging lenses is usually 2 stops down from wide open. Evenness of illumination is better stopped down a couple stops too.

As for exposure times: I really like times between 15 and 30 seconds for the base exposure. Three seconds would be way to short for me.

Try burning your flower with the highest-contrast setting. You'll need a rather long burn, but it might be gratifying.

Doremus
 
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Just so you know (which you may already): the sharpest stop for enlarging lenses is usually 2 stops down from wide open. Evenness of illumination is better stopped down a couple stops too.

As for exposure times: I really like times between 15 and 30 seconds for the base exposure. Three seconds would be way to short for me.

Try burning your flower with the highest-contrast setting. You'll need a rather long burn, but it might be gratifying.

Doremus

i know that, i just forgot what way was what on that beseler lens. its been a crap long time for me. And it only took maybe 20 minutes before i realized where the power switch was located.

my plan is to leave it set as it is, burn a 3 and 4 second print, turn the aperture 2 stops, and see what it looks like on the easel.
 

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I use little strips of paper and make multiple exposures, in a rational order, to zero in on the correct base contrast and exposure. From there a full size sheet is exposed and dodging/burning are then explored.
I use so-called "f-stop printing" where an exposure time change of 1/4 stop = 1.19 factor etc.
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I was looking at my test print from last night, and realized that the negative set as a contrast 2, 000 on the dichro head dials, with the 50m/f3.5 set about half stop below 3.5 makes an awful decent test strip with a 3 second burn on the timer.

but the shadows seem a little muddy, the flower was an orange color so it seems slightly muddy as well. im thinking to do a 3 second burn as well as a 4 second burn.

You could scan or take a photo of the print and test strip and post here to get feed back. Its difficult to trouble shoot a print just using words.
 

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I use little strips of paper and make multiple exposures, in a rational order, to zero in on the correct base contrast and exposure. From there a full size sheet is exposed and dodging/burning are then explored.
I use so-called "f-stop printing" where an exposure time change of 1/4 stop = 1.19 factor etc.
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I do similar and then do a full size test strip to further fine tune dodge and burns, then do several prints till I get it right (or close enough if its just playing around). In fact by the time I make a print for hanging on the wall I have probably done a dozen prints.....lucky I dont do it for a living.
 

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DON'T read books. Make the prints and look at them w/ your own two eyes. You'll quickly understand this, it's truly a visual thing.

Think of it as cooking. You can read cookbooks until your eyeballs fall out, but the minute you put something on the stove and taste it, ah, then you know.

Best advice on this thread.
 

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I do similar and then do a full size test strip to further fine tune dodge and burns, then do several prints till I get it right (or close enough if its just playing around). In fact by the time I make a print for hanging on the wall I have probably done a dozen prints.....lucky I dont do it for a living.

Reading about this kind of dedication to the art and craft is why I visit the forum.
 
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full burn at 3 seconds wasnt bad, 10 seconds at contrast 3alot more detail appeared. Did a 10 second burn at contrast 4.5 the brights are very bright now, and i have lost detail..

does that mean i need to do the yellow and magenta filtered dual filtration method?
 
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just opened up arista edu variable contrast paper, and i just love the little sheet of contrast data.

contrast grade 2 is 10M for kodak filters

but expose to the pure light, ie 000, and its approximately contrast 2.

I definitely love consistency
 

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If you are offered a two filter option for each grade, consider using it.
That approach - speed matching - is intended to make it easier to change contrast without there being large amounts of change in exposure.
The speed matching is usually based on an upper mid-tone - something close to un-tanned Caucasian skin.
So a typical workflow is doing test prints until you get an exposure that results in good upper mid-tones, and then use that exposure when doing further tests with different contrast settings, in order to adjust how the shadows appear and the other tones render.
 

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just opened up arista edu variable contrast paper, and i just love the little sheet of contrast data.

contrast grade 2 is 10M for kodak filters

but expose to the pure light, ie 000, and its approximately contrast 2.

I definitely love consistency

Arista is Foma, I use Foma fiber grade 3, and MC. I like the tones better than ILford.
 
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Arista is Foma, I use Foma fiber grade 3, and MC. I like the tones better than ILford.

My thoughts are more on how accurate the settings chart is, and if there is a usable Y/M dual filtration sheet for it
 
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