+1Have you considered doing a contrast "ring-a-round"?
I'll add David Vestal's The Craft of Photography. Note: the Craft, not the Art, not the Technique, not the Theory.Actually, besides the arcane trio by Ansel Adams, Ralph Lambrecht's. "Way Beyond Monochrome" and Bruce Barnbaum's "Art of Photography" are incredibly practical.
I know, killing paper will help long term but the thing is im doing this on my own. I even tried looking up meetup photo groups, no one does enlarging, none of them do film, and most of them only buy a camera to show it off.
If you do split-grade printing, you don't have to be concerned with determining the contrast grade.
Where in the US do you live? Someone here might be local to you and willing to help in person. I, for one, do much better with demonstrations than with reading information.
This is basically my approach as well. However, my "guess" at the starting grade is informed by a "proper proof." I find the proper proof an indispensable tool and recommend you use them as well. Allow me to elaborate
- Guess the grade, and make a test-strip to obtain correct exposure for the highlights.
- Change grade so that shadows appear as you want them (more test strips).
Absolutely. I learned split grade printing in a week long class that covered many other interesting and useful techniques.
Just so you know (which you may already): the sharpest stop for enlarging lenses is usually 2 stops down from wide open. Evenness of illumination is better stopped down a couple stops too.I was looking at my test print from last night, and realized that the negative set as a contrast 2, 000 on the dichro head dials, with the 50m/f3.5 set about half stop below 3.5 makes an awful decent test strip with a 3 second burn on the timer.
but the shadows seem a little muddy, the flower was an orange color so it seems slightly muddy as well. im thinking to do a 3 second burn as well as a 4 second burn.
Just so you know (which you may already): the sharpest stop for enlarging lenses is usually 2 stops down from wide open. Evenness of illumination is better stopped down a couple stops too.
As for exposure times: I really like times between 15 and 30 seconds for the base exposure. Three seconds would be way to short for me.
Try burning your flower with the highest-contrast setting. You'll need a rather long burn, but it might be gratifying.
Doremus
What did they do the other 6.5 days?
Runs for cover...
i actually forgot where the power button was on my head
I was looking at my test print from last night, and realized that the negative set as a contrast 2, 000 on the dichro head dials, with the 50m/f3.5 set about half stop below 3.5 makes an awful decent test strip with a 3 second burn on the timer.
but the shadows seem a little muddy, the flower was an orange color so it seems slightly muddy as well. im thinking to do a 3 second burn as well as a 4 second burn.
I use little strips of paper and make multiple exposures, in a rational order, to zero in on the correct base contrast and exposure. From there a full size sheet is exposed and dodging/burning are then explored.
I use so-called "f-stop printing" where an exposure time change of 1/4 stop = 1.19 factor etc.
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DON'T read books. Make the prints and look at them w/ your own two eyes. You'll quickly understand this, it's truly a visual thing.
Think of it as cooking. You can read cookbooks until your eyeballs fall out, but the minute you put something on the stove and taste it, ah, then you know.
Best advice on this thread.
I do similar and then do a full size test strip to further fine tune dodge and burns, then do several prints till I get it right (or close enough if its just playing around). In fact by the time I make a print for hanging on the wall I have probably done a dozen prints.....lucky I dont do it for a living.
Reading about this kind of dedication to the art and craft is why I visit the forum.
just opened up arista edu variable contrast paper, and i just love the little sheet of contrast data.
contrast grade 2 is 10M for kodak filters
but expose to the pure light, ie 000, and its approximately contrast 2.
I definitely love consistency
Arista is Foma, I use Foma fiber grade 3, and MC. I like the tones better than ILford.
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