Delta 3200 in D-76?

[RattyMouse]

I was reading the archives here for info on developing Delta 3200 from Ilford in D76. There seems to be wildly divergent views on this so I'm guessing that this is not a preferred developer for this film. Anyone disagree and use D76 often with this film?

 

[Rudeofus]

D-76 is a fine developer and will most likely work ok, but most people shooting Delta 3200 want to get as much speed out of it as possible, and there are several developers out there which do this better than D-76 ...

 

[markbarendt]

D-76 will work fine.

 

[brian steinberger]

If you're shooting it around 1000-1600 D-76 (ID-11) works great! If you want to push it to 3200 I'd go with something like DD-x, microphen, or Tmax.

 

[RattyMouse]

If you're shooting it around 1000-1600 D-76 (ID-11) works great! If you want to push it to 3200 I'd go with something like DD-x, microphen, or Tmax.

I have two rolls of Delta 3200 shot at ISO 1600. From what I read, I should process them at ISO3200 times, to increase contrast. Time to figure out which time is best.

 

[markbarendt]

http://www.ilfordphoto.com/Webfiles/201071394723115.pdf
page 3 or 4 depending on temp

 

[Chris Lange]

No one has the right answer to this. I find Delta 3200 to be a highly personal film, very, very dependent on user preference. I know people that won't shoot it above 1250, I know others (myself included) that shoot it at 25600. Trial and error, and readjusting is the only way with this film. The situations and aesthetics that a film of this speed is used for vary wildly, so I wouldn't use anyone else's regimen as your own.

 

[markbarendt]

No one has the right answer to this.

Some truth there, when in doubt though or when first trying this film (any film) the manufacturer's instructions are a darn good bet.

 

[RattyMouse]

Some truth there, when in doubt though or when first trying this film (any film) the manufacturer's instructions are a darn good bet.

Very good point. I'll start there and work my way down....or up....or whatever.

 

[mexipike]

Some truth there, when in doubt though or when first trying this film (any film) the manufacturer's instructions are a darn good bet.

Except with Delta 3200 and ddx where most people recommend developing one stop over the ilford times. (Shoot at 1600 develop for 3200, etc) I'm not sure if they feel this way for other developers with delta 3200.

I've become an addict of d3200 and ddx

 

[markbarendt]

Except with Delta 3200 and ddx where most people recommend developing one stop over the ilford times. (Shoot at 1600 develop for 3200, etc) I'm not sure if they feel this way for other developers with delta 3200.

I've become an addict of d3200 and ddx

I like D3200 a lot too, in medium format anyway.

Yes, I agree that there are a fair number of people that like D3200 with a little extra development, but most? I doubt that. Ya got numbers to back that up?

+1 isn't a magic bullet, it's just a preference. The more I practice, with D3200, D400, TXP, HP5, D100, FP4... the more I like N development and even just box speed shoot & develop. That doesn't mean my prefs will help Ratty. Chris Lange likes things different than I do, and he has a good point above, the personal prefs of us onlookers in the gallery are irrelevant.

I think it's safe to say though that Ilford has had bit more experience with their films than the average gal or guy.

 

[mexipike]

At least for Delta 3200 in DDX I would still say "most" as almost every thread I find on it has someone flat out stating that Ilford's times are just wrong.

Though I think you're right and I personally doubt Ilford got it wrong, they just have different idea than some people on what they want to get out of the negative.

 

[markbarendt]

At least for Delta 3200 in DDX I would still say "most" as almost every thread I find on it has someone flat out stating that Ilford's times are just wrong.

Though I think you're right and I personally doubt Ilford got it wrong, they just have different idea than some people on what they want to get out of the negative.

Yep, I've heard the banter a lot too. I even concurred with that school of thought for quite a while. Preferences change, understandings change, I learned to print better, how I shoot changed.

When I was first learning I chased push and pull and all kinds of variations, chased many special cases/magic bullets. What I didn't learn early, was "normal".

What taught me normal was C41, darn good, darn near every time, at normal. In fact it was pretty tough to screw it up. Eventually I started down that road with B&W and almost never push anymore.

 

[GarageBoy]

What's the best way to duplicate the look of TMAX P3200 in TMAX developer?

 

[mexipike]

I would guess delta 3200 in t-Max or my personal favorite DD-X

 

[cliveh]

I was reading the archives here for info on developing Delta 3200 from Ilford in D76. There seems to be wildly divergent views on this so I'm guessing that this is not a preferred developer for this film. Anyone disagree and use D76 often with this film?

I am a fan of D76, but is such a fast film really necessary?

 

[markbarendt]

I am a fan of D76, but is such a fast film really necessary?

Absolutely!

Would you prefer a push?

 

[RattyMouse]

I am a fan of D76, but is such a fast film really necessary?

You tell me. My camera's maximum aperture is f/4.5. How are you going to capture this scene?

 

[cliveh]

You tell me. My camera's maximum aperture is f/4.5. How are you going to capture this scene?

More exposure time.

 

[markbarendt]

More exposure time.

There are people in the shot; the longer the shutter stays open the more wiggle in their images will show.

 

[RattyMouse]

More exposure time.

So fast films ARE necessary.

 

[cliveh]

So fast films ARE necessary.

Yes, I didn't say they weren't.

 

[RattyMouse]

I am a fan of D76, but is such a fast film really necessary?

Yes.

 

[GarageBoy]

Inside bars, inside places with people working, street scenes at night- definitely need the speed

 

[cliveh]

Yes.

I should of said, as fast, but perhaps in this case it is required.