Canon's Last Analog Camera

[RattyMouse]

I am not wrong.
The camera (M7) is still listed at the Leica online-shop, thus there still is an inventory.

Nobody is making a comment about inventory. The camera IS discontinued.

One can still find Neopan Acros for sale. Are you going to argue that this film is not discontinued?

 

[AgX]

If a manufacturer still offers a model, one hardly can call that model discontinued.
This thread is best proof of that.

 

[RattyMouse]

If a manufacturer still offers a model, one hardly can call that model discontinued.
This thread is best proof of that.

Ever hear of the term New Old Stock? Think about it.

Notice that the web is filled with stories about how the M7 is discontinued. Just about every major tech site has their own story. Also notice how Leica is NOT issuing a correction, that the M7 is in fact, not discontinued.

Why? Because it IS discontinued.

 

[AgX]

You better keep to your stories.

And "New Old Stock" means something different than a inventory of a product which manufacture just has been cancelled.
Not even in context of this Canon model anyone used this term.

 

[faberryman]

You better keep to your stories. And "New Old Stock" means something different than a inventory of a product which manufacture just has been cancelled. Not even in context of this Canon model anyone used this term.

When does inventory of a discontinued product become new old stock?

 

[AgX]

As the term says, when it's old ...

 

[faberryman]

As the term says, when it's old ...

And that would be when exactly? 1 year? 3 years? 5 years? Who decides?

 

[RattyMouse]

When does inventory of a discontinued product become new old stock?

The moment its discontinued. AgX is seriously confused by English here.

 

[AgX]

Do you really want to have explained the term "old" ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_old_stock

 

[faberryman]

Do you really want to have explained the term "old" ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_old_stock

So pretty subjective. I think film cameras are like turntables and vacuum tubes, both of which are analog, and are currently being made today, though old technology. Here is what the Wikipedia article you referred me to says about vacuum tubes:

"Another example is a business catering to vacuum tube enthusiasts that defines NOS as "mainly a retailer's term for any stocked item which is either A: out of production; B: discontinued from the current line of product; C: has been sitting on a stockroom or warehouse shelf for some time; or D: any combination of the above. The only constant here is that the product is unused."[2]

A and B apply to the M7. Maybe C does too, depending on how you define "some time". I just can't see your reason for quibbling with RattyMouse over the issue.

 

[AgX]

The term discontinued has been used in various ways by manufacturers. And Ratty indicated by linking to that article that the camera is "out of stock".
Whilst it still is offered by Leica themselves.
And this fact has been hinted at not only by me but at least one magazine too.

This very thread is interesting in this context as it shows how long inventory for a high end camera may last.
I guess a production run for that EOS was larger than for that Leica M7, but I can't say for sure.

 

[RattyMouse]

The term discontinued has been used in various ways by manufacturers. And Ratty indicated by linking to that article that the camera is "out of stock".
Whilst it still is offered by Leica themselves.
And this fact has been hinted at not only by me but at least one magazine too.

This very thread is interesting in this context as it shows how long inventory for a high end camera may last.
I guess a production run for that EOS was larger than for that Leica M7, but I can't say for sure.

No new M7's are ever going to be built. It's discontinued. Get it?

Fujifilm is still selling Acros. No new Acros will ever be coated. It's discontinued. Get it?

 

[David Luttmann]

No new M7's are ever going to be built. It's discontinued. Get it?

Fujifilm is still selling Acros. No new Acros will ever be coated. It's discontinued. Get it?

Exactly. It still shows on Leica's page because they have inventory. They will not however, be making any more M7 bodies. It is done.

 

[faberryman]

The moment its discontinued. AgX is seriously confused by English here.

I didn't notice that his location is Germany, so maybe there is a language impediment or a cultural difference about what NOS means.

 

[AgX]

No new M7's are ever going to be built. It's discontinued. Get it?

Fujifilm is still selling Acros. No new Acros will ever be coated. It's discontinued. Get it?

Where ever did I say that either is still produced ?

There sad enough is a tradition here at Apug to rely on and spread heresay. Instead of reading correctly or checking sources.

I didn't notice that his location is Germany, so maybe there is a language impediment or a cultural difference about what NOS means.

I am German but I nevertheless can read.

And that english Wikipedia article, as others, explicitely says at the start "[stock] which was manufactured long ago".


(There is no german equivalent to "NOS", but of course are various dictionary translations, all confirming my stand.)

 

[RattyMouse]

Where ever did I say that either is still produced ?

There sad enough is a tradition here at Apug to rely on and spread heresay. Instead of reading correctly or checking sources.




I am German but I nevertheless can read.

And that english Wikipedia article, as others, explicitely says at the start "[stock] which was manufactured long ago".


(There is no german equivalent to "NOS", but of course are various dictionary translations, all confirming my stand.)

New old stock, or NOS, in English, means inventory of items no longer in production. Be it one day, one year, or one decade.

Discontinued items, like the M7, are relegated to being new old stock once they are out of production.