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Alan Gales · Jun 10, 2015

Everyone likes the 69 Camaro. I have always preferred the 67 hard top or the 68 convertible. I like the vent pane windows but the convertible looks cleaner without them. Personally, I drive an 03 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon.

I'm 53 so of course I will well out live you but I'll bury you alive six feet under if you give me your camera and car.

Alan Gales · Jun 10, 2015

The 67's had the vent pane windows for both hard top and convertibles. In 68 they eliminated them but added side marker lights. Also in 68 the grill changed to a slightly convex style. Did the tail lights change? I don't remember. I just think that the 68 convertibles look cleaner than the 67 convertibles. I do prefer the 67 hard tops over the 68 hard tops. Of course I am nit picking.

If I open up your coffin and you hand me your title and camera I'll probably either keel over from a heart attack or run your head through to prevent the walking dead.

fotch · Jun 10, 2015

APUGuser19 said:
In other news, my thread about Super Graphics 2 or 3 weeks ago came to a happy conclusion. I ended up with one heck of a sweet Super that turned out just perfect. Thought I was getting burned and turned out I couldn't be happier. The guy sold me a basically good, complete one, I re-worked it, and now it's a doll baby. Maybe one of the best examples in existence. I wouldn't let go of it for a nickel.

Congrats

Wayne · Jun 10, 2015

Glad I could help stir up something I didn't now existed.

Dan Fromm · Jun 10, 2015

Alan Gales said:
Everyone likes the 69 Camaro.

Sorry, Alan, I don't like any pony car. That includes all Camaros.

Before the brawl starts, as a fine (at times distinguished) economist, I know very well that there's no disputing tastes.

Alan Gales · Jun 10, 2015

Dan Fromm said:
Sorry, Alan, I don't like any pony car. That includes all Camaros.

Before the brawl starts, as a fine (at times distinguished) economist, I know very well that there's no disputing tastes.

That's why they make so many different styles of cars. People have different tastes. It would be a boring world if everyone liked the same things.

LMNOP · Jun 10, 2015

Alright, you convinced me... I joined the LF forum. My user name is Pat, but I have no privileges right now, apparently. See you on there!

Alan Gales · Jun 11, 2015

LMNOP said:
Alright, you convinced me... I joined the LF forum. My user name is Pat, but I have no privileges right now, apparently. See you on there!

Yeah, it will take a month and then you can view the for sale section and the lounge. Welcome to the forum!

shutterfinger · Jun 19, 2015

Back in post #6 this advise was given: Just give the shutter a good flush w/ lighter fluid and it will probably be a lot better.
Had this advise been followed the owner would have a non repairable paper weight as the shutter uses hard rubber shutter blades.

Sirius Glass · Jun 19, 2015

shutterfinger said:
Back in post #6 this advise was given: Just give the shutter a good flush w/ lighter fluid and it will probably be a lot better.
Had this advise been followed the owner would have a non repairable paper weight as the shutter uses hard rubber shutter blades.

From what I have heard was that cleaning lenses with lighter fluid will just get someone burned.

LMNOP · Jun 19, 2015

shutterfinger said:
Back in post #6 this advise was given: Just give the shutter a good flush w/ lighter fluid and it will probably be a lot better.
Had this advise been followed the owner would have a non repairable paper weight as the shutter uses hard rubber shutter blades.

Whoa, glad to hear that now.

fotch · Jun 20, 2015

Also, it may be designed to use some sort of lubricant, which is won't have now. Imagine doing this to your automobile!

Sirius Glass · Jun 20, 2015

fotch said:
Also, it may be designed to use some sort of lubricant, which is won't have now. Imagine doing this to your automobile!

Just do what the auto mechanics do: squirt the lens with WD-40 and whack it with a BFH*!

*BFH ==> Big F*cking Hammer

Dan Fromm · Jun 20, 2015

fotch said:
Also, it may be designed to use some sort of lubricant, which is won't have now. Imagine doing this to your automobile!

For what seems like the nine millionth time (see post #19 in this thread) Ilex shutters are made to run dry.

Alan Gales · Jun 20, 2015

Dan Fromm said:
For what seems like the nine millionth time (see post #19 in this thread) Ilex shutters are made to run dry.

Amen!

shutterfinger · Jun 20, 2015

and for the 10 millionth time they run better with a trace of oil and grease but dry does not prevent dust and microscopic metal from building up around the pivots. The shutter is an Acme #3. All pivots ride on brass bushings which appear to have been soaked in oil, allowed to drain completely before being sent to the assembly line at the factory. Brass wears very fast without being oiled.
This one was at the slow tolerance limit for 1 and 1/2 second and 1/2 to 1 stop slow at all other speeds.

fotch · Jun 21, 2015

Dan Fromm said:
For what seems like the nine millionth time (see post #19 in this thread) Ilex shutters are made to run dry.

Maybe your right. Has anyone ever found this info in the manufacturers printed documents? Would be nice to have verifiable info.

BrianShaw · Jun 22, 2015

Fotch you are such a doubting Thomas. The repair manual has been around the Internet for years. It says 'do not oil'.

But the do run fine with just a trace of oil too

shutterfinger · Jun 22, 2015

The repair manual has been around the Internet for years.

Funny, when I do a google search for Ilex Shutter Repair manual I do not get a link to one, just links to other junk. Craigscamera.com does not have an Ilex Shutter manual either. Where are they hiding?

BrianShaw · Jun 22, 2015

I may have mis-spoken. The user manual is on the internet (saying "Do not oil").

fotch · Jun 23, 2015

I could not find a manual however, will take you word for it. Do not Oil. Good to know.

BrianShaw · Jun 23, 2015

Butkus' camera manual site has it

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