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Box ISO rate and Real ISO

Michael R 1974 said:
Alan, see the article Simple Methods for Approximating the Fractional Gradient Speeds of Photographic Materials.
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Who are the authors? (It makes it easier to search if I have one or more author names.)

Never mind. I found it. Thanks.
 
Ron, do you recognize this. Can you tell us who wrote it and is it a good primer for someone looking for an introduction to the characteristic curve?
 
This document was prepared by one of the technical writers at Kodak office most likely, or as a generic paper for a conference. It is a seminal article on the sensitometry of film and is also described in Haist and in Mees. It shows curves of the film items I posted, most notably showing how a contrast increase can be mistaken for increased speed. It also shows threshold speed which is the first deviation of that straight "x" line from following the "x" axis.

We had to just about memorize the contents of this paper to pass our course in product building. And, we had to pass a graded test. It is an excellent primer!

PE
 

Two other papers of interest are Calibration Levels of Films and Exposure Devices by D. Connelly from post #89 and C.N. Nelson, Safety Factors in Camera Exposure, Photographic Science and Engineering, v 4, n 1, Jan-Feb 1960 in post #68.
 
Logarithms were introduced by John Napier in the early 17th century as a means to simplify calculations. Logarithmic scales reduce wide-ranging quantities to smaller scopes.

"By now you are probably wondering: why Logarithms? On one side we use density, which is the log of opacity, and on
the other side we use the log of exposure (in millilux seconds). The reason is because logs can compact the information. It is a lot more compact to make a logarithm scale from 0 to 3, than it is to make an arithmetic scale from 1 to 1000. " - The 1st Kodak paper that Michael R. referenced.
 
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The "Real ISO" is as tested and indicated by the manufacturer. It does not change unless the manufacturer changes the emulsion.
What you are talking about is the "Effective Exposure Index" as it relates to your equipment and your use of it along with your processing. It is entirely possible that because of quirks in your system and processing your EI is different from every other user of the material.
 
After reading all of the discussions and getting, possibly, confused, my advice to you is don't change anything. After looking at your photograph, it has everything needed. Good shadow detail, good highlight detail and the grain was certainly great. However you shot it make that your EI and go from there.....Regards
 
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