BLIND PRINT EXCHANGE ROUND 18 (BPX18) - STATUS AND UPDATES

[MattKing]

Question, when is it no longer "Blind"?

I forgot to send info on what my image was and settings etc.

I was wondering can I just post it here? I can't find the user to PM directly?

Are they even supposed to know who I am?

Well... If you get this image, these are the settings (although I remember it being 2 minutes not 60 seconds as the exposure time, however the sun was coming up over an hour period so perhaps this one was shorter (also I went from Velvia 50 to Velvia 100 and so maybe I shortened the exposure and didn't remember now that it's been over a year.

Well... Forgive me if this is the wrong move...

The print I sent...

(there was a url link here which no longer exists)


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Stone:

The recipient is supposed to know who you are once they have your print.

Ask Eugene (our intrepid leader anikin) for the APUG name of the recipient.

And your posting the photograph here (by way of the link) probably damages the "blind" nature of the exchange more than disclosing your identity.

 

[StoneNYC]

Stone:

The recipient is supposed to know who you are once they have your print.

Ask Eugene (our intrepid leader anikin) for the APUG name of the recipient.

And your posting the photograph here (by way of the link) probably damages the "blind" nature of the exchange more than disclosing your identity.

I re-read the faq... It said the blind part is the recipient doesn't know what their getting till it arrived... So I didn't disclose WHO is getting this print... Just that someone is... So when they get it, they can come here and see the link and know the info about the print.

Doesn't ruin the blind part since the blind part is not knowing what you get, and they won't know till they open it

One final piece of info, it's on metallic paper as I felt it was the best representation of the chrome look.


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[Ken Nadvornick]

And your posting the photograph here (by way of the link) probably damages the "blind" nature of the exchange more than disclosing your identity.

I like the idea of participants posting their submissions to the (there was a url link here which no longer exists), and would encourage everyone to consider it. But I always wait until the recipient first acknowledges their receipt of my photograph before doing so. This preserves the "blindness" aspect and guarantees that they are the first to see it.

Ken

 

[StoneNYC]

I like the idea of participants posting their submissions to the (there was a url link here which no longer exists), and would encourage everyone to consider it. But I always wait until the recipient first acknowledges their receipt of my photograph before doing so. This preserves the "blindness" aspect and guarantees that they are the first to see it.

Ken

Good idea except I forgot the paper with my info, it's literally a blind print, I didn't even leave my name... Lol


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[MattKing]

Good idea except I forgot the paper with my info, it's literally a blind print, I didn't even leave my name... Lol


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Just a suggestion from my "anally retentive" side ...

It is really a good idea to enclose with any parcel a note that indicates the sender, their address, the recipient and their address.

In case the package gets damaged in transit.

 

[StoneNYC]

Just a suggestion from my "anally retentive" side ...

It is really a good idea to enclose with any parcel a note that indicates the sender, their address, the recipient and their address.

In case the package gets damaged in transit.

Good point...lol

Well I was in a hurry to get to the post office lol, but your right.

I still want to know are we supposed to critique the persons work in the forum or in a PM or not at all?

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[Ken Nadvornick]

Regarding what to say and where to say it, given that 6+ billion people and the NSA are probably all listening in, just let good taste and common sense be your guide.

I find that variations on Mom's Rule* usually suffice.



Ken

* "Now honey, if you find you don't have anything good to say, then just don't..."

 

[mesantacruz]

Stone, I'm open for a critique. . here on the forum is fine, or if you're planning on being harsh, perhaps a pm would be best. haha.

 

[Katie]

My wet printing skills are beginner at best, so my print should have a preschool level critique... As for the image - that's all subjective.




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[StoneNYC]

Stone, I'm open for a critique. . here on the forum is fine, or if you're planning on being harsh, perhaps a pm would be best. haha.

I'll PM you tonight lol


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[anikin]

You guys are putting me to shame! I still have not decided which image I'm going to print, let alone printing it.
Stone, I think your image is just amazing, and whoever gets it is really, really lucky! Unfortunately, being an organizer,
I'm at the disadvantage of knowing that that's not me. Oh well.

Here's the updated list, please let me know if I missed someone:

SENT:
1 Katie (Katie)
2 Mark (Mark_S)
3 Marco (mesantacruz)
4 Paul (paul_c5x4) (there was a url link here which no longer exists)
5 Uwe (piu58)

RECEIVED:
1 Birger (BirgerA)
2 Kevin (Kevin Kehler)
3 Menno (spijker)

NEITHER SENT NOR RECEIVED:
1 Prasanna (analoguey)
2 Andrej (andreios)
3 Eugene (anikin)
4 Paul (ataim)
5 Nicolas (Dali)
6 Edward (Ed Bray)
7 John (JohnRichard)
8 Ken (Ken Nadvornick)
9 Matt (MattKing)
10 Bob (megzdad81)
11 Mike (mjs)
12 Greg (sage)
13 Reed (semi-ambivalent)
14 Bert (TheToadMen)

SENT AND RECEIVED (DONE!!!!!):
1 Stone (StoneNYC) (there was a url link here which no longer exists)

 

[TheToadMen]

My image will be printed and mailed in a week. I'll update after the fact.
I've selected two images so I let my wife decide which one to send after I have both printed.

Bert

 

[mesantacruz]

Stone, I'm open for a critique. . here on the forum is fine, or if you're planning on being harsh, perhaps a pm would be best. haha.

I'll PM you tonight lol


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should i be scared!

 

[StoneNYC]

should i be scared!

Haha no, I should be scared, I don't have a darkroom so I know nothing about printing at all, so I HAD to send a chrome since that has the loophole of being able to use a light jet process by a lab that's still a chemical process, but I had no hand in the creation of the print except scanning the chrome into my computer. (And shooting it of course).

So I'm embarrassed that my critique is an uneducated one, I can only comment on what I see, but I have no idea how easy or difficult it would be to produce so I would prefer to PM you.

I've been waiting till I can get to a computer to hold the print in my hand and comment, but that won't be till Thursday probably so I'll message you then.


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[semi-ambivalent]

Anakin,

My print is on its way.

s-a

 

[MattKing]

Haha no, I should be scared, I don't have a darkroom so I know nothing about printing at all, so I HAD to send a chrome since that has the loophole of being able to use a light jet process by a lab that's still a chemical process, but I had no hand in the creation of the print except scanning the chrome into my computer. (And shooting it of course).

So I'm embarrassed that my critique is an uneducated one, I can only comment on what I see, but I have no idea how easy or difficult it would be to produce so I would prefer to PM you.

I've been waiting till I can get to a computer to hold the print in my hand and comment, but that won't be till Thursday probably so I'll message you then.


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Stone:

You don't have to be a printer to be able to comment on the qualities of a print.

Many, many very good photographers have relied on others to do their prints for them, and still have developed an eye for print quality.

They are missing out on a lot of fun, but otherwise they are quite capable of coming to an informed opinion.

Do you ever have someone do a custom print for you? If so, what discussions do you have respecting those?

 

[TheToadMen]

My image will be printed and mailed in a week. I'll update after the fact.
I've selected two images so I let my wife decide which one to send after I have both printed.

Bert

Good news and bad news.

I went to the local photo store to have my color negative (6x9 cm) printed. I spoke to one of the employees about a week ago and he said they didn't develop film anymore but still could print (chemically on real photopaper) up to 8x12 inch. But when I went today they told me they don't do it anymore. It is too much trouble to calibrate the machine for just one print but the could also make a nice inkjet print in even larger sizes. I thanked them friendly and went home again....

So, back to square one.

The good news: I found a wonderful professional photolab (fotovaklab Color Utrecht, in Utrecht, Holland). They develop all types and sizes of film, print color and B&W and are very friendly. So I drove 80 kilometers to bring my negative. He promished to print tomorrow and mail it right away. I hope to post my image end of the week. Shipping may take up to two weeks or so across the ocean.

BTW: How do others ship? I think I'll stick the print between two wooden sheets or so?

 

[StoneNYC]

Good news and bad news.

I went to the local photo store to have my color negative (6x9 cm) printed. I spoke to one of the employees about a week ago and he said they didn't develop film anymore but still could print (chemically on real photopaper) up to 8x12 inch. But when I went today they told me they don't do it anymore. It is too much trouble to calibrate the machine for just one print but the could also make a nice inkjet print in even larger sizes. I thanked them friendly and went home again....

So, back to square one.

The good news: I found a wonderful professional photolab (fotovaklab Color Utrecht, in Utrecht, Holland). They develop all types and sizes of film, print color and B&W and are very friendly. So I drove 80 kilometers to bring my negative. He promished to print tomorrow and mail it right away. I hope to post my image end of the week. Shipping may take up to two weeks or so across the ocean.

BTW: How do others ship? I think I'll stick the print between two wooden sheets or so?

My print came from Dwayne's Photo wrapped in plastic, then the plastic was taped face up, to solid piece is cardboard, then that piece was inserted into a larger box. Keeping it face out will prevent any pressure from the shipping adventure from scratching the face of the print (which makes me realize I should have NOT stuffed the empty space with bubble wrap... DOH!!!).

My print should have arrived by now, I shipped it priority mail.

The scan itself wasn't the best, I hadn't yet calibrated the betterscanning holders and the scan is SLIGHTLY out if focus, but slight and you have to get close to the treeline with your eye to tell. It's just not worth the hour or two time to pull it out and re-scan it and try and match it to the already produced scan, and then have to go through and dust spot it all...

Someday I'll go re-scan a few of the best ones now that I've perfected my scanning.


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[paul_c5x4]

BTW: How do others ship? I think I'll stick the print between two wooden sheets or so?

Sandwich the print between two pieces of card - An offcut of mount board is ideal - Then heat seal in a plastic bag.

If you don't have a heat sealer, then try to find some large ziplok bags, failing that, freezer bags. Now that winter is nearly upon us, package a print with the expectation that the envelope will get wet somewhere along the way. I may be going over the top with heat sealing, but after receiving a sodden mess last year, I prefer to be cautious.

 

[anikin]

Thank you Reed for your update. Here's the latest list:

SENT:
1 Katie (Katie)
2 Mark (Mark_S)
3 Marco (mesantacruz)
4 Paul (paul_c5x4) (there was a url link here which no longer exists)
5 Uwe (piu58)
6 Reed (semi-ambivalent)

RECEIVED:
1 Birger (BirgerA)
2 Kevin (Kevin Kehler)
3 Menno (spijker)

NEITHER SENT NOR RECEIVED:
1 Prasanna (analoguey)
2 Andrej (andreios)
3 Eugene (anikin)
4 Paul (ataim)
5 Nicolas (Dali)
6 Edward (Ed Bray)
7 John (JohnRichard)
8 Ken (Ken Nadvornick)
9 Matt (MattKing)
10 Bob (megzdad81)
11 Mike (mjs)
12 Greg (sage)
13 Bert (TheToadMen)

SENT AND RECEIVED (DONE!!!!!):
1 Stone (StoneNYC) (there was a url link here which no longer exists)

This week-end I finally fired up my trusty old Jobo and mixed up some RA-4 chemicals. The color calibration is getting close to what I want, so If I'm lucky, I should whip something up soon. It will be color from me this round.

 

[mjs]

My print was mailed today. Whee!!!

Mike

 

[anikin]

Yay! Thank you Mike! I've added you to the "nice" list:

SENT:
1 Katie (Katie)
2 Mark (Mark_S)
3 Marco (mesantacruz)
4 Mike (mjs)
5 Paul (paul_c5x4) (there was a url link here which no longer exists)
6 Uwe (piu58)
7 Reed (semi-ambivalent)

RECEIVED:
1 Birger (BirgerA)
2 Kevin (Kevin Kehler)
3 Menno (spijker)

NEITHER SENT NOR RECEIVED:
1 Prasanna (analoguey)
2 Andrej (andreios)
3 Eugene (anikin)
4 Paul (ataim)
5 Nicolas (Dali)
6 Edward (Ed Bray)
7 John (JohnRichard)
8 Ken (Ken Nadvornick)
9 Matt (MattKing)
10 Bob (megzdad81)
11 Greg (sage)
12 Bert (TheToadMen)

SENT AND RECEIVED (DONE!!!!!):
1 Stone (StoneNYC) (there was a url link here which no longer exists)

 

[TheToadMen]

I posted the envelope today!! It's on its way from Holland to ........
I added a letter explaining about the image, the camera, exposure, etc.
I hope that the recipient likes it. All comments & feedback are welcome.
Shipping might take one or two weeks, I guess.

Now off to sleeping in my mailbox, waiting for my image from ???????

Bert from Holland



BTW: I didn't send a Bromoil, Albumen or Salt print as I first intended since these were made with digital negatives. It had to be all analogue (film-develop-print).

 

[anikin]

Thank you Bert for your update!

BTW: I didn't send a Bromoil, Albumen or Salt print as I first intended since these were made with digital negatives. It had to be all analogue (film-develop-print).

Actually, there is no requirement for all analogue: digital negatives are fine, as long as the original was taken with film. A note from the FAQ:
"Even contact prints made from the hybrid method (film-->PC-->acetate-->paper) is acceptable."

So, next time feel free to mail the Bromoil or Albumen. Actually, if you are going to an effort of making an alternative print, I would be willing to bend the rules and allow digital capture of the original. We'll just keep it secret amongst us, nobody else has to know. What do the other participants think?

Eugene.

Updated list:
SENT:
1 Katie (Katie)
2 Mark (Mark_S)
3 Marco (mesantacruz)
4 Mike (mjs)
5 Paul (paul_c5x4) (there was a url link here which no longer exists)
6 Uwe (piu58)
7 Reed (semi-ambivalent)
8 Bert (TheToadMen)

RECEIVED:
1 Birger (BirgerA)
2 Kevin (Kevin Kehler)
3 Menno (spijker)

NEITHER SENT NOR RECEIVED:
1 Prasanna (analoguey)
2 Andrej (andreios)
3 Eugene (anikin)
4 Paul (ataim)
5 Nicolas (Dali)
6 Edward (Ed Bray)
7 John (JohnRichard)
8 Ken (Ken Nadvornick)
9 Matt (MattKing)
10 Bob (megzdad81)
11 Greg (sage)

SENT AND RECEIVED (DONE!!!!!):
1 Stone (StoneNYC) (there was a url link here which no longer exists)

 

[Ed Bray]

My apologies, I have not been too well for some time and I am currently recouperating after surgery and am unable to spend any time in the darkroom at the moment. I am hoping to be able to be fit enough to get in the darkroom in the next week or so and will get my print out then.

I also apologise if I have missed a print sent to me, I had a great wadge of prints from various forums when I got back from hospital and have not felt well enough since to be able to sort them out. Again, I hope to be in a position to do this very soon.