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I don't know if this has happened to any of the rest of you. But this old thread popped up in the new posts, and I saw a little green flag that shows I had 2¢ to put in, so I looked to see what my pearls of wisdom might have been. And then I read it and think--"what a jerkwater ahole", and then look over and see my own handle on it. Makes me think harder about keeping my trap shut. No use in making a jerk of oneself any more than normal.:confused:
 

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I don't know if this has happened to any of the rest of you. But this old thread popped up in the new posts, and I saw a little green flag that shows I had 2¢ to put in, so I looked to see what my pearls of wisdom might have been. And then I read it and think--"what a jerkwater ahole", and then look over and see my own handle on it. Makes me think harder about keeping my trap shut. No use in making a jerk of oneself any more than normal.:confused:

No Tom you're not a jerk. I was going to say something profound myself, something like "calling the zone system a form of HDR is like calling a handwritten letter a form of a text message." But I didn't want to be a jerk LOL :wink:
 

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By using Pyrocat HD as a divided developer which expands the tonal range way outside what is typically possible with a standard developer is this not a HDR (High Dynamic Range) technique for film?

Typically HDR has become associated with extremely distorted digital images giving an unrealistic view of a standard subject.

The image below was a HDR image consisting of 5 digital images to control detail in both the light & dark parts of the image.


Wells Catherdral Interior HDR by Ed Bray, on Flickr

The image below was on 5x7 Foma 400 film developed in Divided Pyrocat HD to maintain detail both inside and outside of the building.


Window, Old Filter House, Tottiford by Ed Bray, on Flickr
 

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To return to the original thread subject, thats the main reason I stopped buying the UK Black & White Photography mag; too many overcooked digital images converted to mono infiltrating the reader portfolios.
 
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By using Pyrocat HD as a divided developer which expands the tonal range way outside what is typically possible with a standard developer is this not a HDR (High Dynamic Range) technique for film?

Typically HDR has become associated with extremely distorted digital images giving an unrealistic view of a standard subject.

The image below was a HDR image consisting of 5 digital images to control detail in both the light & dark parts of the image.


Wells Catherdral Interior HDR by Ed Bray, on Flickr

The image below was on 5x7 Foma 400 film developed in Divided Pyrocat HD to maintain detail both inside and outside of the building.


Window, Old Filter House, Tottiford by Ed Bray, on Flickr

Ed- I have no issue with either of your examples - your color image shows appropriate use of the technique because it truly looks like what the eye would perceive. There's no false color, there's no bas-relief effect, no lack of true highlights or shadows as is all too common in HDR work. What I was upset about when I posted the original comment was the hyper-exaggerated, technique-in-your-face style of HDR that is being rewarded. I would never know your Wells Cathedral shot was HDR until you said something, which is really the way it SHOULD be.
 
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