I believe someone posted it previously, as I can remember the scary sound effects
Still, it's fun to watch P30 coming off the line!
There are lots of interviews of ex-Ferrania people on youtube, they are super interesting, I can post some but they are all in Italian.
There are lots of interviews of ex-Ferrania people on youtube, they are super interesting, I can post some but they are all in Italian.
There are lots of interviews of ex-Ferrania people on youtube, they are super interesting, I can post some but they are all in Italian.
This is the channel: https://www.youtube.com/@labaudiovideosdc
You can just search "ferrania" and there are many interviews, but it seems no subtitles
For example this one is super interesting:Apparently at Ferrania they were packaging medical film for Kodak (there are various references to this in other interviews too) and they went under in the early 2000s when the contract ended.
Very cool images of the coating lines, with an automated transport "robot" similar to the one they have in B38 at Kodak!
It is so sad all this went belly up, I sincerely hope FILM Ferrania can keep going on and preserve what they can (and make 8mm film...)
no harm in posting, youtube can translate them reasonably well these days.
Thanks, there is quite a bit of ferrania content on that channel, the translate seems to work OK, the employees seem to be talking about the challenges the company faced in the later years and their work culture.
Youtube will only translate if the content provider turned that option on. Hopefully, it's switched on other videos but judging by the video twelvetone 12 linked, it's doubtful.
I had already tested it and its working fine. Doesnt get it all right, but you get the idea on what they are talking about.
None of the videos translate for me... Oh well, some of the visuals are interesting!
correcthe subtitles get translated, not the audio.
Does it let you turn on the captions?
You then should see Italian subtitles, then you click on the settings gear and under language, you can select auto translate and then you can select the preferred language.
at the time of the Kickstarter, the kolks did metion that one of the two was a movie fan who owned a Movie Lab in Italy and wanted to have fresh 16mm reversal film available. P30 WAS originaly made in 16mm (as Negative) so it is quite possible that they have a R8 Perforating machine. Unless they start making and perforating some print film though they would need to work on a reversal film. (the original plan was to make Scotch Chrome 100, which would work well as a FAST Regular 8 Film.)
On second thought, I guess that given that folks often scan film anyway, that regular 8 Negative might still be useful,
I don't like the business model of Kick Starter, so I have never "donated" anything to them. Its not a donation in my mind, its a gamble w/ no guarantee of a return. If it were a donation you could deduct it on your income taxes. You can't make a "donation" on 7 come 11 on a Vegas crap table and try to deduct that as a deduction if you lose your "investment".
Well, actually you can, but you have to keep studious records, and who would be willing to tell the IRS about their gambling? That might prompt them to get real nosy. The dealers usually frown on anyone writing anything down in a casino anyway. Besides, you can only deduct the losses if you tell them of your winnings, in which case the tax on that is surely much more than your tax deduction. It's a sucker's bet.
Maybe its just me, but if I had a valid idea to make a product and the equipment to make what the idea was about (or needed funds to get the equipment) I would go to private investors rather than getting strangers to send me money online based on a possible future product. Those investors are out there. I've made plenty of mistakes w/ money myself, but one learns, you know? As long as someone is willing to gamble their money, then sure, there is no guarantee of anything. Other than one person suddenly has a smaller stash and the other entity now has a bigger stash.
If someone invested/gambled in or on a product and the funds are diverted to something else like a store credit, while that may sound better than getting nothing, it also does not sound legal.
FILM Ferrania started with a 1.5 Mil investment fro the Regione Liguria plus the Kickstarter: https://www.regione.liguria.it/home...co-valbormida-stabilimento-film-ferrania.html
I also found some more interesting videos of old Ferrania.
Triacetate base making in building A:
And another video of building H while coating the anti-halo for color film:
The small robot il called "Zaccaria". Both videos have a voice explaining what is going on but often it is covered by the sound of machinery and I could not really understand.
It is interesting to see how "run down" the plant seems in some places, particularly in building A there is a mix of old and new. Everything seems to be digitally controlled. At some point the cameraman shows a pile of trash on the floor and says "degrado! degrado!" (degradation! degradation!), it sums the feeling I had viewing the video (also notice the leaking radiator later on). They also show some of the buildings around (thousands of people worked there is the 80s, is the comment), including the LFR.
They also show the cooling towers of the power plant which was still in operation, in one of the interviews they interviewed one of the technicians there who proudly stated that they never had any downtime in 50 years or so.
It is quite sad that most of this was lost, and I hope some of it can be reconstructed and kept alive by FILM Ferrania.
I believe the last coating run on their coater was some time around 2006 or 2007. Going by the 2011 expiry dates on some of their film, that would sound about right.Yes, there also were other investments, but if those had sufficed they probably would not have gone to Kickstarter - and the response on Kickstarter did help to show the interest of people to the other investors. I cannot read italian and don`t really trust translating software - is it possible that Kickstarter was first and other investors joined in later? Also as Regione Liguria does own the Ferrania campus, could this be an indirect investment - like "we let you work here but you don`t have to pay rent" or alike? I think there is some kind of agreement like this.
As far as i know the plant was abandoned for more than 10 years when they decided to set up the new Ferrania factory.
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