I am not sure how this relates to Greg's point about P30's speed. Can you elaborate on this? ThanksSpeed drops inordinately in gray weather and inside with window light. I’d say you are lucky to get ISO 40 under those conditions.
The film speeds up when it receives more blue/UV light.I am not sure how this relates to Greg's point about P30's speed. Can you elaborate on this? Thanks
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Thanks,is this peculiar to P30 and if it is, do you know what is it about P30 that makes it do this. So its a higher speed in say the Arizona desert than in a sunny day in the U.K. and even in any latitude its speed varies with the time of day. In night light do you know what speed it falls to ? Was Greg correctly rating its speed at 32 because he was basing it on his self portrait which was indoors and under artificial light?The film speeds up when it receives more blue/UV light.
[QUOTE="TheFlyingCamera, post: 2449041, member: 6743"...as they have abandoned their original backers.
P30 appears to perform a lot like tungsten balanced movie film.
And giving other manufacturers hints on their state... They said they will give more infos when they are ready to deliver.I'm on that list and I am not upset that I have not gotten my reward yet. BUT I do wish they would give an update at least every quarter. Perhaps like say something like "Have a colorful Autumn" and post a B&W photo of a tree with the leaves coming down for the year. At least then we would know they were still alive. During COVID I feared they were down and out for good.
Thanks Matt. Is this related to it being like ortho film or just a coincidence that because of its tungsten balance it simply appears to exhibit the same qualities?It would appear from my very brief research since receiving Helge's reply that some ortho films but not all, do suffer from a speed loss under tungsten light by as much as a stop so, if as appears to be the case, Greg's portrait and colour chart was done under tungsten light and if it was this light under which Greg measured the film speed then this makes sense.P30 appears to perform a lot like tungsten balanced movie film.
I just give up. Yes, you're entitled to the extreme. Film Ferrania did exactly what they promised with the Kickstarter funds. I just totally give up trying to explain this to people who choose not to listen. Go ahead and believe you were conned. Go ahead and believe Film Ferrania don't communicate. Nice fantasy world.
Film Ferrania have made it VERY clear. No updates until they've achieved in-house production of P30.
Why give a free sample of a format they're not even making?
Why give quarterly updates when there's a global plague and nothing worth telling?
I want. I want., I want. I want.
Geez. This place becomes as bad as Faceache.
I appreciate what you are trying to say. OTOH, I can fully understand the disappointment felt by a proportion of the Kickstarter contributors......if you look back at the original fundraising, Ferrania definitely did give the impression that they has the equipment, chemicals, supplies, packaging, skills and everything else needed, just waiting there to produce a reward of a batch of colour reversal stock, even to the extent of offering different sizes and quantities according to the amount contributed. I'm sure that there was no intention to deliberately con anyone, but, with hindsight, it seems obvious that Ferrania were far too optimistic in thinking that colour reversal was an easy exercise......this, and the unforeseen problems which came up, means that even consistent production of B&W now looks to be proving to be very difficult exercise for them.
So final question: if the speed differcence between Greg's 32 and Ferrania's 80 is all down to the fact that P30 is a ortho film, I take it that the difference is not dependent on the amount of UV light available so there is one slower speed for some ortho films but that speed is constant.
In other words there is a daylight speed which is the same irrespective of location
As a Ferrania Kickstarter contributor, I agree totally with what you say. Ferrania were either optimistic, naive or a bit of both to think they could achieve what they set out to do so easily and quickly. I hold my hand up and say that I also was optimistic and/or naive to think they could do it in the time frame they believed possible. My expectations are now bordering on zero. Whether they choose to give updates or not is up to them, but so little information won't help to keep their supporters onside.
Funny how there are always so many reasons why something can’t be done
I think those that say something cant be done has never met someone who actually does it.
Then there is the old saying that just because something can be done doesn't mean it should be done.
I'm on that list and I am not upset that I have not gotten my reward yet. BUT I do wish they would give an update at least every quarter. Perhaps like say something like "Have a colorful Autumn" and post a B&W photo of a tree with the leaves coming down for the year. At least then we would know they were still alive. During COVID I feared they were down and out for good.[/QUOTE]they have not completely forgotten. https://www.filmferrania.com/ks-founders-wall
Of course not. What is wrong with you?Ilford, Kodak and Fuji don’t make enough film for us?
Ilford, Kodak and Fuji don’t make enough film for us?
Thanks faberryman for the reply and info. When I ask questions I like to think that I am either simply looking for information/knowledge or answers to help me reconcile what may or may not be contradictory statements. It is usually as simple as that.
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