Well-stated. After going through a variety of mediums, I feel that ceramics is the one most difficult to control at the mastery level. In the ceramics classes I took, we had to mix our own clay from the raw materials like feldspar and then mix our own glazes. When rates of firing are put into it, there are a dizzying array of variables involved and a lengthy process to “do over” anything that blows up in the kiln.
Most artists I speak with/ know are very critical and mock film photographers as “repeats” . You go out to take /make an image just like” harry Callahan” or whoever. Trying to recycle ideas from 50 years ago thinking no one is gonna notice. And then they laugh and snicker. Current Film photography shows tend to reinforce “the history” of the heyday of film, not commenting or making new work or ideas.
As we look at the “movements” in the art world over time, we are now in the “Contemporary” era and “meaning” rules over everything else.
+1. That realm is called academia: the land of interminable discussions...Anyway, the vast majority of people don't care at all. They like what they like and don't bother to examine it more than that. It's only when you enter the realm where things need to be justified and vindicated that any concern above simply being amused needs to be addressed.
Agreed, would it also be true that ceramics people are not considered fine arts/ and that they are relegated to the peripheral? Like woodworkers/ furniture makers!!!
There is Awesome stuff in both disciplines but those people do not get acknowledged by museums. Like “fine artist”
+1. That realm is called academia: the land of interminable discussions...
Thanks, Matt. It’s wasn’t my intention to reignite that old argument but to address a finer point.
I think there is some validity to the point that says that with photography, all one has to do is release a shutter to create an image. That virtually anyone can do that, the accessibility that quote I included spoke of, is what keeps it on the periphery for many.
I am in both camps. While I know my way around photography, I am also an artist who works in other mediums and not everyone can jump right into most them a create an image as quickly as one can with a camera. I draw, a lot, and I hear over and over from others who claim they can’t draw. I’ve never heard someone say “I can’t take pictures.” This might be at the heart of the issue.
...I think most people see film photography as a dead breed. ...
And the better cameras today do a great job for average people. So the number of pretty good shots is in the millions maybe billions and there's no differentiation. People look for new ideas in art, especially in museums. That's harder to do with photos.
Are you guys aware of the (USA English) dictionary definition of "Art" .?
Not sure there is another word with such a broad and subjective meaning.
I believe there is less speculation in The Stock Market than with the definition of "Art"
Definition of ART
skill acquired by experience, study, or observation; a branch of learning:; one of the humanities… See the full definitionwww.merriam-webster.com
Most artists I speak with/ know are very critical and mock film photographers as “repeats” . You go out to take /make an image just like” harry Callahan” or whoever. Trying to recycle ideas from 50 years ago thinking no one is gonna notice.
I have always been on the periphery of just about everything. Haven't fallen in yet. Oh, and that's just cruelty towards animals, Mr. Glass. But is is Art?
how many images of your favorite photographer(s) have you bought? Do you own?
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