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Are We Really Stuck With Ilford MGFB? Where Are the Magic Papers of the Past?

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The AI summary is unreliable. There's no reference I can find online to it ever being sold. I searched Google Books and found nothing.

Ansco 103 was their Universal Film and Paper Developer.

You may be right because I spent an hour or two looking for old catalog references.

But why would "Ansco 130" even be a thing if they never sold it, I wonder?
 

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But why would "Ansco 130" even be a thing if they never sold it, I wonder?

Ansco used to include developer formulas on the sheets they included with film (I know - I found a couple). Don't know if they did the same thing for paper. They sold branded photo chemicals.
 

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Also, think of all the formula books Kodak printed over the years. I doubt all of those formulas were available prepackaged. (They didn't publish the formulas for all their products, either.)
 

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From the last page of an Ansco Formulas booklet:

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Lots of people still prefer to cook with their own ingredients at home, rather than microwave a pre-frozen TV dinner. Convenience and mass distribution isn't always the point. Instead, for many, taste is.
 

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rather than microwave a pre-frozen TV dinner

If you have something that is still branded a "TV dinner" in your freezer Drew, I'd caution against eating them, no matter how you prepare them.
They would be likely to be past their "best before" date .........
In the winter months, in many parts of the world, frozen food can be the healthiest and most flavourful option!
 

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I have never ever had TV dinners even in my refrigerator. What kind of scavenging vulture do you think I am? But there are plenty of other analogous putrid options in Supermarket freezer aisles, not to mention what fast food joints serve up. My wife does do a fair amount of her own freezing. But my big film freezer is off limits. Last time she got in there and hid a frozen turkey in the bottom, she completely forgot about it until I exhumed it about 15 years later (inedible).

Up in your far north, native inhabitants have been known to eat Mammoth and Mastodon meat frozen for who knows how many thousand or tens of thousands of years, sometime with catastrophic botulism consequences. Way back then the early hunters would take 200 lb chunks of elephant meat and impale it on deeply sunk sharpened tree poles in "pingos" - supercooled tundra pools - the earliest known version of "flash freezing". Modern experiments with African elephant meat cold-preserved in the same manner and then eaten a couple years later proved completely successful. Of course, if you want to set up a wooly mammoth fast food franchise, I recommend removing all the wooly hair before deep frying it!
 
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