Apollo 11 Hasselblad photos.

[bobwysiwyg]

Saw a statement in the past few days that referenced the high reflectance of the moon's surface. According to this statement, the moon's surface is 30-60% glass [particles]. Hmm, never knew that.

 

[photomorgana]

NASA video

it is a shame that all cine film was destroyed.
NASA had custom build Kern Bolex camera installed on Lunar Module that was filming everything. State of the art custom Switar lenses were built for the Moon mission.
One of them is Switar 18mm f0.9 and the second was Switar 180mm f4.5 (both were apo lenses, although its not written on the barrel) Some reliable source once mentioned to me that there could be 3rd lens, but I can not confirm the model.

Doing more research about, it all makes sense now.
Hasselblad, Bolex (Switar) and Hermes are sister companies that were operation under one paillard umbrella back in 1960s.
Here is the article from Science magazine from 1969, (more like add but still)
The very rare 18mm Switar pictured in there with what looks like custom bayonet adapter on it, since they were made in C-mount.

http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/issue_pdf/frontmatter_pdf/165/3894.pdf

 

[Q.G.]

Doing more research about, it all makes sense now.
Hasselblad, Bolex (Switar) and Hermes are sister companies that were operation under one paillard umbrella back in 1960s.

Being represented by one and the same importer in one country does not make companies "sister companies".

I don't think NASA's book of requirements had anything in it that said that the stuff they needed had to be from one shop.

 

[photomorgana]

Being represented by one and the same importer in one country does not make companies "sister companies".

I don't think NASA's book of requirements had anything in it that said that the stuff they needed had to be from one shop.

you are right Paillard was just a distribution company. Hasselblad and Kern-Switar are separate companies with outstanding product that made it to the Moon.
And actually digging deeper it looks like there were 4 Switar lenses made for NASA - 10, 18, 75 and 180mm (I dont know if 10 and 75 were standard or custom made, but 18 and 180 are trully limited run just for NASA) I saw them in museum on one of the websites.

 

[Tony Egan]

This thread got me all nostalgic so I went looking for what was on Youtube and fount this. Amazing!

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L17cV5YwUVY[/YOUTUBE]

 

[Steve Smith]

it is a shame that all cine film was destroyed.

I watched a program on Discovery last night. Some of it was from cine film (35mm and 70mm) which was put into storage un-processed as it was only going to be used in case of an accident for investigation purposes.

Many years later (not sure when) NASA realised what they had and had it processed.


Steve.

 

[Tim Gray]

Just developed this roll of film from a recent trip to Sweden. This was in the technical museum in Stockholm. Don't know if this camera actually went to the moon (I kind of doubt it) but it was probably a similar spec.

 

[Q.G.]

None of the cameras that went to the moon ever came back, no.

 

[AgX]

"Don't litter"

 

[mike c]

I wonder if you could get those cameras back from the moon what condition they would be in.Would they put them in some thing to protect them or just throw them over their shoulder.

 

[Dirb9]

They'd probably be very, very dusty and probably not workable due to 40 years of sitting in -200 degree temperatures. I do know that they took the magazines back, I'd bet those would be worth a pretty penny if you could track them down.

 

[Q.G.]

I wonder if you could get those cameras back from the moon what condition they would be in.Would they put them in some thing to protect them or just throw them over their shoulder.

Why would they have wanted to protect them?

 

[Sirius Glass]

None of the cameras that went to the moon ever came back, no.

They never heard of Tread Lightly?

http://www.fs.fed.us/r8/boone/recreation/tread.shtml

"Take photographs, leave foot prints"

Steve

 

[Q.G.]

They never heard of Tread Lightly?

I think not, no.
Or could it be that they had different priorities?



The camera bodies are perhaps the least of what they left behind.
Why, they are taking pictures of the rubbish they left behind right now, and not a single camera has been sighted yet.
Maybe someone went up to collect them? Keep an eye on eBay!

 

[rulnacco]

They'd probably be very, very dusty and probably not workable due to 40 years of sitting in -200 degree temperatures.

Are they even in one piece? That is, did they remove the magazines before re-entering the LM and leave the camera bodies on the surface? If they took them back into the LM before removing the magazines, then the cameras were smashed to bits with the rest of the ascent stage when it was jettisoned prior to the return voyage. The Apollo 11 LM ascent stage was left in lunar orbit, which eventually decayed so that it crashed into the surface. (All the craft from the six landings suffered the same fate; some were commanded to crash themselves to provide seismic data.)

Tread lightly indeed!

 

[phfitz]

Could someone explain photo 15 in the original link 'a silhouette of Aldrin on the moon'?
Is this a defect of the lens? or a time-delay photo?
Look at the shadows from the rocks, the light source has moved during exposure.
the shadows on the left are pointing right and the shadows on the right are pointing left.
Please explain how this can be done in a studio.

 

[Q.G.]

It's in fact a painting. Not a photo.

Because it needed to be very detailed to be able to convince the world it was a photo taken on the moon, the workload was split, the work done by two teams. (Three, actually. But the team assigned the task of painting the black filled outline of the astronaut unexpectedly finished far ahead of schedule, and was 'let go' permanently. The planners didn't like to be shown up like that.)

What you are wondering about is the result of a lack of communication and coordination.
Nasa got better at that, and when they faked later moon landings no such mistakes were made ...

 

[knifeinthedark]

Everytime i see the earth rise picture, i get goosebumps.... what a beautiful planet.

 

[Photo Engineer]

Here is one of them to admire then.

PE

 

[Steve Smith]

Could someone explain photo 15 in the original link 'a silhouette of Aldrin on the moon'?
Is this a defect of the lens? or a time-delay photo?
Look at the shadows from the rocks, the light source has moved during exposure.
the shadows on the left are pointing right and the shadows on the right are pointing left.
Please explain how this can be done in a studio.

Do a search for and watch the episode of Mythbusters where they de-bunked all of the moon landing conspiracy theories.


Steve.

 

[removed-user-1]

Do a search for and watch the episode of Mythbusters where they de-bunked all of the moon landing conspiracy theories.

I saw this episode, very informative. At one point in my rather lengthy college career I was officially an astrophysics major, and this topic came up in the context of first-year astronomy. What I never understood was how people who believed that the moon landings were faked could so easily rely on technology such as satellite weather reports and satellite TV. If we can launch such satellites, going to the moon isn't that much more difficult - to say nothing of all the interplanetary probes to Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, etc.

 

[DLawson]

What I never understood was how people who believed that the moon landings were faked could so easily rely on technology such as satellite weather reports and satellite TV. If we can launch such satellites, going to the moon isn't that much more difficult - to say nothing of all the interplanetary probes to Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, etc.

Oh, I know that one.

The claim that I've heard repeated (no doubt based on a misunderstanding of the Van Allen belt) is that there is a super-mega-deadly shield of radiation between the Earth and the moon. Machines can go through that, but no human would survive.

Now don't tell anyone. The government has kept this a secret that only the special people know.

 

[ic-racer]

Anybody interested in this *needs* to check out the book "Full Moon", edited by photographer Michael Light.

Dead Link Removed

It blew me away when I saw it at the Craig Krull Gallery in Los Angeles.

I like #45: Harrison Schmitt as "Lee Friedlander on the moon"

 

[MartinCrabtree]

I used to work with a guy who subscribed to the "fake" theories.He once described watching a Shuttle launch while living in Florida.I asked if he thought that was real.He replied "yes".Well then how do those astronauts survive the Van Allen belt I asked.He said "what?"He didn't even know what the Van Allen belt was.So much for intelligent discourse.

 

[Q.G.]

He at least knew enough to not know about the you-can't-survive-the-Van-Allen-belts theory.

I don't think the shuttle launches are real. They're Industrial Light & Magic animations. Surely noone can believe they are not!