Apollo 11 Hasselblad photos.

jamusu · Jul 17, 2009

PeteZ8 said:
At the time it was a technology race with Russia. The moon was a finish line, and we had to beat them there. Since then the focus of the space program has changed dramaticly and NASA budgets have been slashed.

If you really understand the history of the USA and the Cold War, it makes perfect sense.

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Pete.

Excellent point. In fact I started to mention that in my response, but thought it not necessary because I find it hard to believe that we or any other continent have landed on the moon based on the fact that no one has been back in decades.

But my opinion has nothing to do with what the O.P. has written so I will stop here as a means of saving the thread before it is taken down the wrong path.

Jamusu.

Christiaan Phleger · Jul 17, 2009

Didn't they do some sort of 'snip' processing step to tweak the density of the Ektachrome?

2F/2F · Jul 17, 2009

Anybody interested in this *needs* to check out the book "Full Moon", edited by photographer Michael Light.

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It blew me away when I saw it at the Craig Krull Gallery in Los Angeles.

jwil6969 · Jul 17, 2009

The arguments about the US never having really landed on the moon fail in the face of experiments left on the moon
when the crews left. One of these were devices that allowed laser beams to be fired from earth the moon for the
purposes of measuring the distance between the two. I believe there several such devices left. On, the moon is moving away from Earth and in a few million years will be so far away that it will no longer control the tides. So sell that beach front property now, before major flooding occurs. Another thing to consider, there were several instances where radio hams listened in on the "private channels" while the crews were headed for the moon. Another, experiment left on the surface were seismic detectors to determine the core density of the Moon. They read the shock wave when the blast off occurred. Believe they lasted for a few years and provided readings from the moon. Would also agree that the USSR would have publicized and "fake" activity if it was there. Was stationed in Germany
during the mid to late 60's and Army units were always at state of "war footing" waiting for the "bear". They were looking for any reason to embarrass the US. If you can find this book in a used book store buy it makes for a good "read". It is called "Secrets of Our Spaceship Moon" by Don Wilson ISBN 0-440-16550-4. Raised quite a stir when it came out in 1979. Guess we'll just have to wait for the "greys" to show up and explain all.

bobwysiwyg · Jul 17, 2009

I understand that NASA destroyed 45 original, downloaded videotapes of the moon landing. Supposedly, it was a grave mistake, or was it just a case of destroying the evidence.

Much has been made of this in the past couple of days. Conspiracy theories aside, the tapes in question were of a non-standard format consisting of images transmitted to two earth locations. At these locations, the non-standard format was converted. It's not hard to believe that at some point someone determined these original, non-standard tapes were of little value since no one else could read them. Of course, considerable technology could be applied to them today, but this technology didn't exist at the time.

I watched the landing, had just returned from overseas. I was impressed, grainy images and all.

Photo Engineer · Jul 17, 2009

Go here:

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/alsj-hass.html

Or here:

http://www.apolloarchive.com/apollo_gallery.html

For information about the Hasselblad(s) and the moon photos available prior to this recent restoration.

On another tack, those that disbelieve that men walked on the moon, well, I have to say that I rank you all lower than those who use digital. There is too much evidence to the contrary to even support an iota of truth in your beliefs that it was all fakery.

PE

skyrick · Jul 17, 2009

Photo Engineer said:
On another tack, those that disbelieve that men walked on the moon, well, I have to say that I rank you all lower than those who use digital. There is too much evidence to the contrary to even support an iota of truth in your beliefs that it was all fakery.

PE

A friend at McDonald Observatory gave the best refutation of claims of fakery. How did the laser retroreflectors, that had to be unpacked and assembled, get up there? McDonald Obs has been firing lasers up there since a week after Apollo 11's visit.

Rick

funkpilz · Jul 17, 2009

I had a book when I was young with all those pictures. It was titled "Full Moon", and I loved it. This brings back memories.

nocrop · Jul 17, 2009

skyrick said:
A friend at McDonald Observatory gave the best refutation of claims of fakery. How did the laser retroreflectors, that had to be unpacked and assembled, get up there? McDonald Obs has been firing lasers up there since a week after Apollo 11's visit.

Rick

Good one, though I can't be bothered to refute objections from guileless morons. Maybe it's all for the best for conspiracy theorists to believe what they will, so long as they don't start insisting that other people wear their tin hats.

Hey, did you hear that 9/11 was an inside job?

Sirius Glass · Jul 17, 2009

tjaded said:
At a recent photo exhibit I read that during a NASA mission one of the astronauts accidentally let go of a Hasselblad, which is now orbiting the earth. Take that Sputnik!

When that happened, my friends and I were heart sick!

Steve

Sirius Glass · Jul 17, 2009

Photo Engineer said:
Go here:

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/alsj-hass.html

Or here:

http://www.apolloarchive.com/apollo_gallery.html

For information about the Hasselblad(s) and the moon photos available prior to this recent restoration.

On another tack, those that disbelieve that men walked on the moon, well, I have to say that I rank you all lower than those who use digital. There is too much evidence to the contrary to even support an iota of truth in your beliefs that it was all fakery.

PE

Well said.

Steve

Mackinaw · Jul 18, 2009

Here's visual proof that we landed on the moon:

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/07/17/apollo-landing-sites-imaged-by-lro/

Jim B.

Sirius Glass · Jul 18, 2009

Good, that is settled!

Steve

2F/2F · Jul 18, 2009

As well as the must-see book "Full Moon" that I mentioned before, there is a short article on the 24 moon walkers in the current issue of Time Magazine, with new pictures by David Burnett.

GJA · Jul 19, 2009

Photo Engineer said:
NASA has announced that they have erased some 1,000 or more video tapes of the data from the Apollo flights, and the USAF has lost most of the photos taken from ground based cameras. The University of Central Florida is working with groups of us who worked there at the time to estimate how much was lost and what can be recovered. No one knows why these historical documents got such treatment.

PE

I heard this on NPR a few days ago. Apparently NASA needed both magnetic tape and space (no pun intended) in the archives to store it. They basically just used whatever they had on hand and unfortunately it turned out to be both important and historical. It is also unfortunate that foresight, unlike hindsight, is not 20/20.

skyrick · Jul 19, 2009

GJA said:
I heard this on NPR a few days ago. Apparently NASA needed both magnetic tape and space (no pun intended) in the archives to store it. They basically just used whatever they had on hand and unfortunately it turned out to be both important and historical. It is also unfortunate that foresight, unlike hindsight, is not 20/20.

According to ABC Nightly News, http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=8105130 no one at NASA thought to provide quality video of Neil & Buzz. What we, and millions around the world, saw that night 40 years ago was filmed off a TV at Parkes in Australia, and then beamed back to a satellite for transmission to the world's TV outlets. The only surviving video is that grainy, ghostly images we all saw on our 17" Zeniths. The original video received at Parkes Station was supposed to be spectacular. Those were the tapes that were not preserved.

BTW, if you saw the movie "The Dish" about the Parkes Station's contribution to that broadcast, the little kid, the mayor's son could have been played by me at that age. I was (am) such a space geek. I loved the look of wonder on everyone's faces when they watched the moon walk.

Rick

Andy K · Jul 19, 2009

Here's what a seven year old Andy K made of it...

bobwysiwyg · Jul 19, 2009

Very cool that you saved that.

sbelyaev · Jul 19, 2009

These are very interesting and thought provoking pictures.
Everything on the moon look pristine: space suites, foil on the landing pads. There was no floating dust on the picture of walking astronaut. Where did the moon dust go?! One would expect significant dust deposition after landing on fire.

Interestingly, Soviet Lunochod-2 died because moon dust accumulated on the solar cells and the machine could not shake it off.

Sirius Glass · Jul 19, 2009

So Andy, you are about 16 years younger that me?

Steve

Tony Egan · Jul 19, 2009

Andy K said:
Here's what a seven year old Andy K made of it...

I was 11 and it was winter and I have vivid memories of shivering in my shorts and long socks in the cold old convent building attached to my primary school which was the only place with a TV. This was in a small town called Lake Cargelligo a few hours drive west of Parkes. I recall we had visited the dish at Parkes on one of our family school holiday trips.

And as for the conspiracy theorists it's hard to remain polite and I commend the self-control exercised so far. I think we need Buzz Aldrin to punch a few more silly people in the nose!

2F/2F · Jul 19, 2009

I still have the point and shoot pictures my dad took of the TV set in one of my family albums. He was always a airplane/space nut, and passed it on to me...

Real shame about the loss of the high-quality video.

GJA · Jul 19, 2009

sbelyaev said:
These are very interesting and thought provoking pictures. There was no floating dust on the picture of walking astronaut. Where did the moon dust go?!.

On the moon, there is nothing for dust to float on.

MattKing · Jul 19, 2009

2F/2F said:
I still have the point and shoot pictures my dad took of the TV set in one of my family albums. He was always a airplane/space nut, and passed it on to me...

Real shame about the loss of the high-quality video.

I am sure that the Super 8 Kodachrome movies my dad took of the TV screen are in amongst the boxes of movies he and my mother still have.

I remember seeing them projected a day or so after the fact.

Matt

sbelyaev · Jul 19, 2009

GJA said:
On the moon, there is nothing for dust to float on.

Yes and no. Apparently moon dust can float:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_field_of_the_Moon

http://discovermagazine.com/2007/mar/can-we-survive-on-the-moon

I guess under the condition around the "landing" time it didn't.

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